ALL DEFENDANTS GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS.
Our exclusive correspondent David O Markus, who we have placed in the courtroom at great personal expense, (based on his hourly rates) reports a clean sweep for the government.
This has got to be a bit of a surprise as many observers reported a weak prosecution case and powerful closing arguments for the Defendants.
However one should not discount the spectre of terrorism and 9/11 which cast a large shadow on this trial.
Was justice done?
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76 comments:
If he was truly guilty then prison is where he belongs. Nobody was vindicated here though - our Country has suffered an immeasurable loss due to the manner in which Padilla was treated and prosecuted. Who can have faith in our system of justice that allowed the treatment of an accused to go forward in this way? How many people truly fear guys like Padilla more than their own government? Al Quaeda is an aweful and reprehensible organization - unfortunately, our government has stooped to a new low in dealing with the "bad guys", and made it much more difficult to distinguish ourselves from these so terrorist organizations. Hmmm...let's see...we waterboard people...we convict people before "tribunals" (or try really hard to)...we bomb countries with no established link to 9/11....What is it exactly that remains of our honor before 9/11, and how are we any different than countries like Cuba and China in dealing with purported threats to national security? Somebody tell me, because the America we live in now doesn't resemble the one we all grew up in. P.S. Before some nutjob "patriot" in republican or "conservative" clothing jumps forward to call me a communist or something, lets all remember what we were fighting for initially when we separated ourselves from the King of England. It's going to be about that hard to eliminate Bush's legacy and imprint (or footprint) upon our Constitution.
I think Bush is better to have as a leader than Bin Laden. I guess that makes me a fascist Nazi or racist or whatever, but, never mind.....
Rump, thank God you got the breaking news on Padilla from Markus, otherwise we'd never know.
Scratch a liberal, find a dhimmi.
All of us were NOT in that courtroom so, second guessing is not fair.
I bet the jury had actual evidence of all kinds of misconduct so, they convicted.
Rump, don't you mean: "congratulations to the prosecutors who won a tough case and obtained the conviction of a dangerous man." Or do you only congratulate defense attorneys who win difficult cases allowing guilty defendants to walk?
THE CAPTAIN REPORTS:
re 2:41 pm's reference to "sharia"
Sharia (Arabic: شريعة transliteration: Šarī‘ah) is the body of Islamic law. The term means "way" or "path to the water source"; it is the legal framework within which the public and some private aspects of life are regulated for those living in a legal system based on Muslim principles of jurisprudence.
CAPTAIN OUT ...........
Captain is right=Sharia is not scary, its based on solid Islamic principles that date from the 7th century-the test of time. We could use some of that here.
One difference between us and Cuba in matters of natl security is that we can criticize our govt's military actions as loud as we want, we can even make up lies about our govt officials, we can challenge them in every way. In Cuba, well..... get a grip bro.
Padilla is an obvious enemy of freedom, of decency, of women, of fun, of the good life. He swore allegiance to Al-Queda, who delared war on the Western way of life, and on this nation. Good fucking riddance. Thanks, 4:11!!!
Rumpole, I do not know much about what is going on between Blecher and Warren Schwartz except this- Warren thinks Blecher wrote about Warren having lunch at Marias a few weeks ago. Warren was with some PDs and Blecher was with Shuminer, Phil R and some other guy I don't really know but I believe might be Prasitto (sp?).
Anyway, I can' say just who I am, but I walked in to grab some take out (the chicken is great) and I am sure none of those guys saw me. I thought it would be fun to write something on the blog about Warren holding court at Marias. Now I have learned that Warren yelled at Blecher and I feel awful.
Warren please believe me that 1) I really did not mean to upset you 2) I am certain that the comment you are upset about I wrote- which means Blecher is innocent.
I was just bored at work and having some fun- I didn't mean for it to cause problems between friends. I feel awful about this. Rumpole please get the word out.
Thanks.
Feelin blue.
Anonymous said...
Rump, don't you mean: "congratulations to the prosecutors who won a tough case and obtained the conviction of a dangerous man." Or do you only congratulate defense attorneys who win difficult cases allowing guilty defendants to walk?
Rumpole replies:
I want the police and prosecutors to arrest and prosecute dangerous people and keep me and my family safe.
I didn't see the trial, so admittedly my information is second hand.
I do not trust anything the Bush administration says about terrorists anymore. From what I do know about the case, the evidence seemed weak. I do not support the way Padilla was treated by the Military prior to him being sent to Federal court.
Therefore, I have serious questions about whether justice was done. Admittedly I do not know all the evidence in the case.
I am a criminal defense attorney so my sympathies lie with my colleagues who lost.
I am often accused of kissing the ass of the police and prosecutors. So I guess your comment means that overall I am a pretty fair guy, as I am catching flak from both sides.
It has been one of those days. If I did not have to get up at 3:00 in the morning tomorrow and drive to Fort Myers, I would pop open that bottle of wine that has been chilling in the frig. I guess I better break out the Rules of Appellate Procedure because it looks like my first appeal is on the horizon.
A young frustrated attorney-
great win for the government. this much is true. but had padilla not had a wash up pd, he could have won. you get what you pay for in an american court. justice was not served.
Rump
If this guy was treated as an enemy combatant, to fucking bad. You are pathetic!! Your sypathetic to the defense in this case? Wake up. They did there job but feeling sorry for them?
Warren once told me that trials are the number one priority of his practice at the PDO. I've learned alot from this man. Leave him alone.
Rump, I can't believe your comments about Bush. We've not been attacked since 9 11. Isnt that good for anything? I mean really? You have a serious blind spot when it comes to defending our freedoms (isnt that what you're about?)from our real common enemies. They ARE out there.
Re 4:21 pm
Sharia sanctions stoning women for adultery, throwing homosexuals off tall buildings or burying them alive, and cutting heads off non-believers wherever you find them.
You're right 4:21, we can use a little of that here.
/sarcasm mode/OFF
Without being sarcastic Bush lied about their being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
There are more terrorists after us now than there were on September 11. We won the war and lost the peace.
BREAKING NEWS: Rumpole reporter at large David O. Marcus has been rushed to the hospital for psychiatric observation based upon a failed suicide attempt. It seems Mr. Marcus could not stomach the thought of a big case in federal court that the Justice Dept, Federal Judge, FBI and defense were able to conclude without his assistance or appearance on the record. Please keep him in your prayers.!
6:25 you shoulda turned your Sarcasm thing "on" when you read my comment. Dullard.
But at least you understand the danger.
THE CAPTAIN REPORTS:
to 6:25's comment, read the following:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1264/is_11_33/ai_98370912
CAPTAIN OUT
TRYING AGAIN:
http://findarticles.com/p/
articles/mi_m1264/
is_11_33/ai_98370912
CAPTAIN OUT .......
Captain, why are you spreading news out of context against Muslims and their culture. Racist Bush-lover.
We are so accustomed to disguise ourselves to others that in the end we become disguised to ourselves.
- Francois de La Rochefoucauld
RE: Rumpole's last comment about disguising himself.
Notice how quiet the Shumie is? His friend Jon Blecher is at fighting words with Warren Schwartz. His friend Phil R is regularly trashed on the blog.
And Shumie just sits back and laughs. Ain't that right Shumie...err Rumpole...err Shumie?
Lets see if this post makes it.
It made it. Now what?
ZZZZZZZZzzzzz
This just in: Jimbo Best not in trial this week.
I've often felt Shumie was at the center of this mess. Plus his wife was a REGJB insider for a long time. It makes sense. It fits.
Wanna know how relevant Shumie/Rumpole is? Run a google search. He doesn't come up until page two- and then only in the context of his blog.
"I'm struggling"
Sy Gaer
''The bloody gloves in the O.J. case might have exonerated him. . . . These bloody gloves point directly at this man,'' Walker said, laying the gloves on the defense table and pointing at Galindo.
obection! sustained!!!
walker, your a moron
What you gonna, what you gonna do when I come for you!
Let's expedite this homie!
;-)
I still say that Rumpole is a bias ticket laywer. Enough said.
Rumpole or Captain or anyone else with information.
Question: How many days does the circuit court panal sitting in appeal from county court have to render decision from oral argument date?
I was told 45 days was the rule from Judge Farina? Is this true? What if its been 4 months?
Roy Black can you help?
"I am a criminal defense attorney so my sympathies lie with my colleagues who lost."
So you would have preferred that Padilla walk so your friends could win a trial? That makes me sick.
And enough with the "Bush lied" crap. That's the knee jerk reaction for every lefty. He had the same information that all your idols (Hillary, Kerry, etc..) had and relied on. The difference is Bush admitted his mistake and took responsibility and your people didn't have the balls to do that. They blame the President.
Thankfully, Hillary is the best the left has. She wil never win.
CK
rump when has anyone ever accused you of kissing the ass of police or prosecutors? you rarely (although i did see it once with laura adams) compliment a prosecutor on a big win. i will give you some props, you are not nearly as self righteous as fed head David markus. That guy preaches more than TD Jakes on a sunday
you say your sympathies lie with colleagues but why? they werent on trial. they are still going to get nice checks from gov(not a fortune but better than the state wheel). they go home at night. They did everything that they could so why would you sympathize with them? the issue isnt ausa's vs defense it is did the defendant's cmmmit a crime?
CK- You and I may not agree on many things. But unfortunately I agree with your last sentence. Which is why I am supporting John Edwards.
As to "Caught"- it may surprise you to learn that I was not raised by goats. Even Rumpole has a family. If you were really smart you might say to yourself- "hmmm...terrorists struck NYC, does Rumpole have family in NYC? He has admitted to going to school in the North East."
But you are instead just a loud mouth. But keep saying I'm Phil R or Shumie or Lurvey. It keeps me nice and safe (althoug I do put up with endless emails from one of those individuals.)
Rump---"I am a criminal defense attorney so my sympathies lie with my colleagues who lost:
It's a sad commentary on where you're coming from that you are more concerned about your colleagues feelings than the threat someone may pose. Do you feel the same way when a guilty murderer, rapist or child molestor walks?
As for your feelings about Bush, I don't trust him or AG either. But, that doesn't mean I'd doubt all of the line prosecutors working for him. You routinely deride people for stereotyping, but continue to lump all prosecutors into one group. It ain't right. Most prosecutors are decent, hard working people who sacrifice a great deal working for the community (I'm no longer one of them). They deserve better than this.
I guess Subtlety is not your bag, 10 am.
If these men are terrorists- something I am very hesitant to believe based on our current administration's desire to form an atmosphere of fear- then yes I am happy they were convicted. Based on the little I know, they didn't appear to be terrorists to me.
Even so- I am a professional. I know what it means to devote years of your life to a case and lose. It hurts. On a professional level. Even if these men were guilty, then those defense attorneys are at the forefront of defending our constitution by defending enemy combatants to the very best of their ability. That is a tradition we have in this country.
Perhaps you have heard of John Adams? Our second President? He was a crminal defense attorney and defended several redcoat British soliders who were alleged to have committed manslaughter by shooting into a crowd of people in Boston right before the war broke out.
If I recall, he won most of the charges as most of his clients were acquitted.
I congratulate the prosecutors for winning what appeared to be a case with little evidence. I also congratulate my defense colleagues for doing their job to the very best fot their ability. They have made me proud to be an American, something that is rather tough to feel these days.
Also- Warren Schwartz is a great guy, and I am thinking of removing that post because of the first line. Don't you have the ability to write without using crass curse words? Arrant ignorance. (Now go look up "arrant" you moron).
I'm getting into a bad mood today.
:(
10:47- that is the problem with people like you. You all revert to the "Hollywood" "Channel 7" hysteria of child molestors walking out of the courtroom because the judge ruled a comma was misplaced in the information so he must go free.
If you had any experience in criminal law you would know that is simply not true. And you should know this- if a person who is guilty is acquitted- place the blame where it belongs- with the police who did a bad job or the prosecution which screwed it up. Don't blame the defense for doing their job well.
And just how many of the over 100 innocent men released from death row have you agonized over? Do you care when an innocent man loses 20 years of his life in prison for a crime he didn't do? Go spend a night in DCJ and then imagine that every day for 20 f'ing years and tell me what you think about our great justice system. Yeah go do that if you have the time between reading comic books and watching Channel 7 news.
I think I'm losing it today. Grrrrr.
Bad mood for you Rumpy? John Edwards? Mr. USSR-style economics? He'd never have let Howard build that bldg. NEVER. Can't wait til you and your family get a load of socialized medicine. What was you admire about Howard? Go ahead, tell me how great Edwards is again.
Rumpole, I cannot resist using this blog to write unsolicited negative stuff about people and trying to guess who you are. Can you suggest a hobby for me? I'm tired of my wife getting annoyed when I go in the den at night and close the door and get on the computer.
Rumpole, close the blog down for a while until you recover your brain.
Terrorism, Islamic Terrorism is real. Have you heard of Bruce Bawer? Maybe you should. He is gay, liberal and moved to Europe when Bush took over.
He's found some troubles over there in lefty wonderland. Seems the internal contradictions of lefty multiculturalism are Balkanizing these societies-particularly the N. European states. He wrote a book called "While Europe Slept" Its thoughtful, liberal, and eye-opening in the extreme. Maybe you ought to check it out before you dismiss the ideas. Just keep an open mind.
THE HERALD REPORTS
Miami-Dade Assistant State Attorney David I. Gilbert was honored this week in Tallahassee by Gov. Charlie Crist and the Cabinet for receiving the 2007 Gene Berry Award. The award is given annually by the Florida Prosecuting Attorneys Association in memory of a prosecutor who was killed in 1982 by the wife of a man he prosecuted.
Gilbert, a 34-year veteran of the state attorney's office, is considered an expert in traffic-homicide cases and also helps his office train new attorneys and prosecute major crimes.
GOOD FOR YOU DAVID. YOU ARE ONE OF THE BEST.
Quick, quick, whose got something really bad to say about David - c'mon, c'mon, something he did 9, 15, 23 years ago - c'mon, I know this crowd has it in them.
My perfect day: Golf in the morning and lunching on Moros with my new best friend, Andy Boros.
Does your mind wander when it wants to? Excercise discipline and control it, as a elephant keeper controls the elephant.
- Buddha -
Surprising verdict? What planet are you on Rumpole. This is not a little Burglary case where a lack of evidence will lead to a Not Guilty verdict. This is more like a
child rape case where the defense
better prove 100% that the defendant is innocent.
I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing.
Socrates
True many of us were not in the courtroom during the trial, but we certainly have enough information to opine about the due process aspects of the Padilla case. The guy was arrested in 2002, kept in isolation in a military prison for more than three and an half year, subjected to less than pleasant treatment and conditions. Just consider what the media was able to report, and I can assure you that what was depicted in, and showed by the media was only a scintilla of the treatment and conditions to which Padilla was subjected. During the time Padilla is in detention, the government obtains evidence to build the case, remember the initial allegations which the government touted never made it to trial. The question is when was all this evidence discovered or assembled. For example, the media reported about that a critical piece of evidence was an application to join a radical militant movement which had Padilla’s fingerprints on it. Considering the detention, which the court, to some degree, found violative of Padilla’s rights, you have to question when, where, and how did the fingerprints get on this piece of evidence.
While evidentiary issues are interesting, and we can debate the ad nauseum, what should concern everyone is the tactics and procedures employed by the government, particularly the means and methods of detention. Means and tactics of detention which remind me of a bygone era, and other parts of the world where due process is the exception. Are we so willing to compromise fundamentals which have always differentiate our Country from the rest of the world thinking doing so lead to a safer and more secure country?
I suspect we can all agree that our system of justice, as conceived by the framers of the constitution is not perfect. We can also agree that the justice systems of totalitarian regimes are expedient, consider IRAQ under Saddam who dealt with dissidents swiftly, and contained uncivil conduct to a minimal, but heck we invaded IRAQ because it was violating human rights, ironic. Then, we attempt to justify comparable practices in our country, go figure!
I would be remised if I did not voice my concern over the growing anti-immigrant attitude which is growing and appears to be overtaking our country, an attitude of prejudice and complacency, if not wilful blindness to systemic violation of fundamental rights against immigrants, all under the guise of national security. The anti-immigrant climate which has so overtaken debate and fostering prejudice against immigrants is alarming, particularly to an immigrant such as myself. I analogize the current mind set in our country to that prevailing attitude which lead to the Japanese American Internment during World War II. An attitude which the country justified at the time, but later found despicable and worthy of repent. However, the country repented, the violations were committed and the damage done. The violations and harm was done by all from the policy makers to the judiciary who sanctioned the practice, often because of political expediency, or as we say today “political correctness.”
As Martin Luther King, Jr., said “history will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people.” To my colleagues, and to the bench, I suggest you think about this quote often.
Justice Kennedy, in his address to the ABA in 2003, implored the defense bar to stand up and protect fundamental rights, of all, not only the popular or the natives. Implicit in his address, for those of us who heard it, was a clear message to the judiciary, do not yield to the political winds or pressure. In my opinion, Justice Kennedy’s message is an important one, and one which he has endeavored to foster in helping shape recent opinions. Consider the following excerpt, and read the full text, it is inspiring.
Our own legal tradition has been shaped by persons who know there is injustice but must resort to the law to establish the general principles for righting it. Over 115 years ago, in this city, a man called Yick Wo went to court when local officials denied him a permit for his laundry business. He came to the Supreme Court of the United States. His case generated one of the most important equal protection decisions ever written. It is a tribute to our law and to our profession that a case involving a foreign national gave meaning and scope to the equal protection rights of all Americans. Our case law system is built on the idea that individuals in any era can strive to vindicate personal rights, and that by their effort our law emerges stronger than before.
In this process, lawyers know that every battle does not bring victory. There will be defeats, but the defeats will not break our will. In day-to-day debates on how to relate the law to our civic discourse and our lasting traditions, we must insist on rational, principled judgment. By doing so we advance the mission of a free people.
Read it all at: http://www.supremecourtus.gov/publicinfo/speeches/sp_08-09-03.html
Thanks, Rump - as you probably know by now, I am hard to silence.
Here's the blub from the Miami Herald Article on the last big "Ticket" case that I did.
Coward.
SUSANNAH A. NESMITH snesmith@MiamiHerald.com
After spending 42 months in jail accused of killing a man, Robbie Henry and Don Smith were released Tuesday night after Miami-Dade County prosecutors abruptly dropped the first-degree murder charges against them in the middle of their trial.|Murder charges were dropped in the middle of a trial Tuesday after the first two witnesses said police told them to lie. The unexpected move came after the two eyewitnesses testified that police told them to lie about who committed the murder.
Of course my wife and I also handle criminal traffic cases as well. It helps pay for my boat.
That is in response to 11:33 which I would request Rumpole take down, as the Coward doesn't have the guts to put their name to what they write.
Congratulations on a well deserved award, David.
Rumpole, you're absolutely right when you say David Gilbert is an expert on traffic homicide. I presided over some of his cases. A true professional and a good guy as well.
Rob
PS Rumpole re you comment: "So I guess your comment means that overall I am a pretty fair guy, as I am catching flak from both sides." Such undiscriminating "flak magnetism" is a definite judicial symptom. I guess you must be feeling a mite "judgely". If you start looking for a black robe, see your doctor immediately.
Edwards, Rump? EDWARDS? Did you take the early line on the Browns to win the Super Bowl too?
CK
Nerd alert!
Judge Piniero used the word "mite"!
Any doubt why we love this guy?
CK
Yes, David Gilbert is a good guy and in his heart he means well but, what about that case he and Josh Weintraub filed years ago for Traffic Homicide when the baby in mom's lap was killed and was not in a baby seat at the time of the crash.
Judge Shapiro granted a JOA.
Stan (not a judge at the time) Blake said in a speech, the only reckless behavior in that case was by the two prosecutors who filed it.
That poor family, lost a kid in an accident and then had to sit through a trial.
Other than that, David really does a good job.
1:58, no one , absolutely no one, will read a column that long-winded. Are you an atty? Not a succint one, I guess. Learn to organize your thoughts with clarity and brevity in mind.
to 1;58 p.m. You obviously did not know anyone incinerated at the world trade center on 9/11/2001 and like it or not, if the president of the u.s. did not attack someone in retaliation for 9/11 he would be impeached or shot in the head like they did to kennedy. your analysis is devoid of intellectual sophistication-no country on this planet would not retaliate after a 9/11 killed 3000 civilians.
What is a sleezy lawyer?
Russia and China are holding joint military exercises and flying bombers over England and Guan,( a U.S. territory). I guess it was just a matter of time before the world got fed up with Bush I & II and two attacks on the Middle East over oil. So now maybe the world is going to gang up on us- who are our military allies who would assist in a war? are there more than 1 or 2. Thank you Harvard, Yale and the Ivy League WASP elite who have destroyed this country and perhaps we will soon know what it is like to be invaded and bombed. Not only are the Bushes the worst family in the political history of the U.S. but this president and his top administrators who sent Colin Powell and George Tenet to the UN to lie to the world that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction should be prosecuted and incarcerated and that includes Cheney, Rice,Rumsfeld, Tenet, the head of the CIA, NSA and at least 2 dozen senators. They not only have the blood of 4000 american military on their hands but also a half million iraqis, and 25000 americans who a few years from now will not want to rejoin their buddies on the front line but rather will say why did I lose my eye, leg, hand, arm, because americans won't pay 5.00 for a gallon of gas. put that in my fbi files motherfuckers.
4:42- yes coward, I own a boat. Gee, a lawyer/boat owner in Miami. Wow, that really narrows it down. Name one piece of evidence- one thing- that you can point to to back up your baseless accusation.
And my offer still stands- we each put up a thousand and I take a poly- I pass, I keep it all.
Come on Coward, put your money where your mouth is.
And if I recall correctly, Rumpole speaks of his "Yacht." I have a small 24 foot cuddy cabin.
Phil R.
Blake often thinks that he is funnier than he actually is -- usually while insulting someone. The JOKE always trumps decency - right, Stan?
4:00----with all apologies to Judge Shapiro......okay, with no apologies to Judge Shapiro........
Anyone who thinks it's not reckless for a person to drive with a baby in his or her lap is a moron. And a reckless moron at that.
Rump, your response at 10:58 was ridiculous.
The point of the previous post was that it's sad that your sympathies lie with defense attorneys to the exclusion of others (don't backpedal now Rump). It's pathetic that you offer condolences to defense attorneys who lose, but don't think twice about the victims who watch guilty people walk out of court (yes, that is a necessary consequence of enforcing our rights on occasion, that doesn't make it "just" for the person who lost a loved one). THAT was the point.
YOU are the one who can't engage in a logical conversation and appreciate the feelings of everyone involved, not me. Besidess, there is no reason to feel sorry for a defense attorney who does his or her job and loses. Given the fact that the vast majority of arrestees are guilty, that's what you should expect (and that's what's best for all. We'd have nothing but anarchy if it were otherwise.). A defense attorney who appropriately defends his or her client can feel proud and should be appreciated regardless of outcome, as was finally pointed out in a later post congratulating them.
5:41, I dissent on one point: I don't think any European nation outside UK and maybe France would do a thing if atacked with a 9-11. What did Spain do after 3-11? Give up like good little dhimmis (look that word up Rumpole, maybe it fits).
BTW, in Malmo, Sweden (55% Muslim immigrants -and no assimilation allowed-) one is not allowed to wear a cross or star in the Muslim half of the city.
Imams (who control their neighborhoods and decide the "rules" of those aresas) have told the Swedish authorities that they do not tolerate such blasphemy and the authorities dare not challenge their cultural norms. Native Swedes who spoke out were labelled racists and far-right elements by the govt-run press agencies.
But its all about Bush and those evil Republicans!
Our main enemies are the world's worst places to live and the world's most brutal govts toward their own citizens. Russia and China are upset at us and are ready to do what? Invade? Bomb our interests?--are you a simplistic retard? Seriously, are you?
Maybe if we just sat around and sang "Kumbaya" and held hands and talks with everyone it be ok. Right, sweety?
Good Lord Phil, are you really taking this seriously.......man, I thought we were just playing around in good fun.
Chill out man.
Why is Warren so hated? He's a pretty nice guy I thought. I mean, I know he supposedly never tries cases and makes a lot of dollars- well into 6 figures-but he 's harmless and his wife is nice, too.
phil
you are a great lawyer. ignore this guy. he;s a dick.
Response to 7:42. OK, I guess I have to spell it out. A military alliance between those 2 countries will be justification for people like to Bush to continue to spend billions on military bases and wars. Recently in the news they are trying to say Iran is a terrorist nation because they are unwilling to admit they made a mistake in Iraq so why not go after Iran. This justifies sending more troops and the military industrial complex prevails again to the delight of the aristocratic republicans who don't count any of their children among the dead. The Russia/China alliance is an effort by the other 2 superpowers of the world to tell the U.S. the world is tired of your failed imperialistic invasion of Iraq to secure oil and if you expand into Iran you may after to deal with opposition by a country with 2 billion people and the other world military/nuclear superpower. No INVASION of the U.S. is not on the horizon- being dragged into WWIII is. Lesson over. signed SWEETY.P.S. Nixon would have called this triangular diplomacy.
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