A clothes contretemps has broken out among our fair readers:
Earlier this week I saw a young woman attorney at REG. She argued her point in high-heels, a knee length skirt and tank-top.Now... I've no desire to wear dresses and silk blouses, but I'm curious about this... Why must male attorneys sweat out court in suit and tie while women attorneys are allowed to dress "for summer."If male attorneys are required to wear long sleaves, shouldn't women? If male attorneys are required to wear long pants, shouldn't women be required to wear long pants or dresses. If men are required to wear ties, should women be allowed to wear v-necks?Would it be so hard or so wrong to create a gender neutral dress code which still lets women dress like women and men dress like men?
I am a female defense attorney and at the risk of sounding too conservative, I agree with 3:36. I will speak for myself. I wear tank tops all the time, but while in the courthouse, I always have my suit jacket on. I never take it off until I leave the courthouse. If I'm wearing a skirt, which I try to avoid, I always have on pantyhose. [Rumpole notes: Me too.] And I personally think it's inappropriate to wear open toe sandals (even if they have high heels) in court. Men have a dress code. Women should too. It's all about showing respect to the court system, although it often is not worthy of it.
THE CAPTAIN REPORTS:
Rumpole, I would like to get some feedback from attorneys and judges who read this blog. This issue was briefly discussed several weeks ago and I remember that Judge L. Schwartz permitted men to appear before him sans necktie.Here is the proposal (and you can add this to one of your polls if you want):FROM MEMORIAL DAY TO LABOR DAY, the courts will be on a summer dress code. This means that a male attorney may appear in court with either: long sleeve shirt and necktie, but no jacket OR dress shirt and jacket, but no necktie.That is the proposal, please give me your feedback.
Mr. Blackwell said...
This is supposed to be a noble profession. Why is it that we want respect but are willing to show none. Wearing appropriate clothes is a matter of respect. Respect for the Court, for the system, and for the public. I am not a used car salesman. Is it so difficult to wear a suit and tie? You must be kidding. Lets do court on the beach in speedos. We wonder why the publics trust and esteem for lawyers and the Courts are ebbing it is because we do not have a high enough opinion of ourselves. Lets not devolve to the lowest common denominator but elevate our profession. If you want to be a park ranger have at it. But, if you want to be a lawyer is it unreasonable to expect a certain amount of decorum from oneself and each other.
We have dresscodes for everything; schools, formals, and yes even Court
Rumpole replies: we would LOVE to be a park ranger. Where do we apply?Anonymous said...
once saw a top Broward attorney in Broward court with loafers and no socks.
Lost a lot of respect for him but no one up there seemed to mind.Hey 3:50 female attorney-give us more descriptions of your clothing ensemble- caliente!
Rumpole speculates that you must have been sitting around waiting to be called while the North of the Border Judge had a good chuckle at your expense.
It's 90 days people; no ties; the judges don't even wear ties under those robes. hey judges, remember when you had to walk through the parking lot in and our of the MJB in July. I SAY NO TIES IN JULY
Rumpole notes that this is a matter for our fearless leader. Yes, I am speaking of none other than Chief Judge Joe Farina (www imthechiefandyournot dot com. )
Appoint a Judge to lead a commission. Take testimony, issue a proposal for public comment, and adopt a rule. Or save everyone a lot of time and sign an order stating “from June 15 through Labor Day, attorneys shall be allowed to dress appropriately for summer, which can include not wearing a tie in court during calendar calls and hearings.”
Or something like that.
See you in court. We’re the one who uses a Windsor knot in our tie.
PS: The REGJB building manager has assured us that the new green awnings have been purchased from a very reputable Reputable Midwest company. The awnings are wind rated to 9 mph. As the building manager was overheard to say: “hurricane season is almost over. Let the next guy worry about it next year. I’m outta here.”