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Saturday, March 22, 2025

DOWN GOES FOREMAN

UPDATE: The White House threatened us, so like the law firm Paul Weiss (and Vichy France in 1940)  we capitulated and removed the prior post. Life under occupation 2025.  

In the 1970s three of the coolest guys on the planet were Muhammed Ali, Joe Frazier and George Foreman. Throw in Steve McQueen and Bruce Lee, and it's all 70's cool all the time. 

Ali, Fraser and Foreman were inextricably intertwined with each other. (This is still a legal blog in some ways). There would be no Ali without Frazier and Foreman, No Foreman without his destruction of the heavyweight Champ Joe Frazier. And no smokin Joe Frazier without his three epic battles with Ali. 

It started with Ali/Frazier at Madison Square Garden with the fight of century on March 8, 1971. Ali was the linear champion. He lost the title when he refused to be drafted. Joe Frazier was the actual champion but he knew he would never be recognized as such until he fought and beat Ali. 

There may never be a sporting event like this again in our lifetimes. Just about every celebrity in the world who was anyone was there as a spectator (Norman Mailer and Woody Allen), photographer (Frank Sinatra couldn't get a ticket so he got in as a photographer for Life Magazine), or announcer - the actor Bert Lancaster who had never called any sporting event before.

    Frazier beat Ali in a 15 round decision, dropping him with a sweet left hook in the 14th. 

    Meanwhile George Foreman was stalking them both. A glowering 6'4 and 230 pounds of menace and muscle, he was best known for waving the American Flag when he won the gold medal in the same 1968 Olympics that Juan Carlos and Tommie Smith gave a raised fist salute. 

    After Frazier beat Ali, Foreman was looming. He was beating every single opponent by knockout- usually in the first three rounds. He did not have a bout go past the eighth round when he finally met Joe Frazier on January 22, 1973, less than two years after Frazier beat Ali. 

Joe Frazier was the favourite. He was a relentless fighter who kept moving forward, bobbing and weaving to make his opponent miss while he measured him with sharp jabs to set up one of the best left hooks ever seen. Frazier was not just good. He was great. He still stands today as a top five heavyweight champion.  He had no quit in him. He had the heart of a lion. When he fought Ali in Manilla for their third match and was prevented by his corner from answering the bell in the 15th round, Ali fainted. He later said it was as close to death as he ever felt. 

Which puts into context two things. First the utter destruction of Joe Frazier by George Foreman when they met. Foreman knocked Frazier down SIX TIMES in two rounds- the first knock down famously recorded by Howard Cosell who shouted DOWN GOES FRAZIER DOWN GOES FRAZIER DOWN GOES FRAZIER. The knockdown of the heavyweight champion was that shocking and unexpected. The video is below. You just did not do to Joe Frazier what Foreman did to him. And that sets up for a discussion at another time Ali's shocking eighth round knockout of George Foreman with what we contend was the best right hand punch landed in the history of boxing. 

The three of them made each other the stars they were. Ali. Frazier. Foreman. None of them would have been who they were without the other two.  And Cosell calling their bouts made it that much better. And our thoughts about Howard we shall also save for another slow day. 

George Foreman went on to reinvent himself, winning the heavyweight championship as an aging and jolly 45-year-old and then becoming one of America's favourite pitchman with his George Foreman grill (we had one; who didn't?). 

George Foreman was a great champion. And here was his greatest moment. You just did not do to Joe Frazier- one of the greatest fighters in history- what Foreman did to him. Enjoy. And rest in peace Champ. 


27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Where did the March Madness post go?? Are we protecting her?

Anonymous said...

Down goes the march madness post.

Rumpole said...

I was threatened by the White House so i caved like the law firm Paul Weiss.

Anonymous said...

Rump - do you fear Trump?

Do you think that by criticizing him and his policies could lead to Kash Patel and Pam Bondi getting a court order to reveal your identity?

Do you now restrain any Trump criticism to protect yourself and family?

They do not mess around.

Anonymous said...

Couple of points on what is probably your greatest post to date. 1. Frazier knocked Ali down in the 15th round, not the 14th. 2. Ali told Angelo Dundee to stop the fight after the 14th round. Frazier beat him to it. The fight was really a draw. 3. There was a strong tradition in boxing that if you beat the champion, you were entitled to a rematch. See: Liston/Ali; Frazier/Foreman; and Spinks/Ali. There were others. The names Floyd Patterson, Ingamar Johannsen come to mind. But no Ali/Foreman re-match. Why? My suspicion is that Ali outsmarted Foreman once and probably could never do it again. But there has to be a back story to this.

Anonymous said...

Threatened? Really??

Anonymous said...

Protecting who?

Anonymous said...

Do yourself a favor, watch When We Were Kings in Foreman’s honor. Ali Boom Aya. Has to be the most shocking upset of all time, even more than Tyson douglas

Anonymous said...

Rumpole , Mr. Trump may disallow you to appear in all federal courts because of what he considers subversive as it relates to your content and style.

If he finds you to be a single middle age man living with a cat or cats - it will be worse for you.

Could you imagine Rumpole being shipped off to Writers Prison in El Salvador? Will you still be considered handsome with your hair sheared like a sheep and no facial hair?

How fierce and independent can you be when Trump and Justice Alito are all over you. You know what you have done.

No Tesla for you said the Tesla Nazi

Anonymous said...

Cosell made the moments bigger. He announced like he was a spectator, emotions flowing with the moment. “ Foreman as poised as can be.” The venues were mysterious 3rd world countries and everything felt new and wild. What a time to be a sports fan.

Anonymous said...

What was the threat? Were they claiming the reporting was incorrect? Explain please.

Anonymous said...

Hi diddly ho lawyerinos. I hope you prosecutors are in the office on this perfect beach weather Sunday. We are “The best team in America” We sacrifice to “win at all cost”. By the way have I ever mention Kathy is the greatest prosecutor in America? Did I ? Well let’s just say it again. Kudos to you all sacrificing a beautiful day. Kudos to Kathy the greatest prosecutor in America .

Anonymous said...

Rump you afraid?

Anonymous said...

It should read down goes the Democratic Party.

When AOC and Sanders are your standard bearers - it’s over.

The party is dominated by men hating , tax and regulation lovers.
Everyone wants to live in Florida Texas and Tennessee for a reason. Florida will never vote democrat again.

Thank goodness Gavin is tacking to the right.


Anonymous said...

It should read down goes the Democratic Party.

When AOC and Sanders are your standard bearers - it’s over.

The party is dominated by men hating , tax and regulation lovers.
Everyone wants to live in Florida Texas and Tennessee for a reason. Florida will never vote democrat again.

Thank goodness Gavin is tacking to the right.


Anonymous said...

Love what Trump is doing after four years of sleepy joe. Keep driving liberals crazy; they have no answers.

Rumpole said...

Agreed. Well said.

Rumpole said...

The same way I fear herpes

Rumpole said...

I think it’s correct to say Ali found a way to beat Forman once and probably could not do it again. But when the title was on the line he found a way and that’s why he was and always will be the greatest.

Anonymous said...

All I know is we voted for a maniac who is hell bent on re-naming the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America, instructing the DOJ to sanction law firms over ‘vexatious’ litigation against government and has started a trade war with our biggest ally Canada, and wants them to become the 51st state. How is this normal?

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Herpes is forever.

Anonymous said...

Keeping stats how many prosecutors sign in on the weekends .

Anonymous said...

Fight Oligarchy

Anonymous said...

Word is …

Anonymous said...

Hi diddly ho SAO we’ve got coffee and bagels

Anonymous said...

Gavin Ocasio for president!