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Wednesday, October 03, 2007

EMPTY

THE CUPBOARD IS BARE

This disappointing email from Rick Freedman arrived announcing that the State (again) has no money to pay attorneys who have already submitted bills:


I have been informed by the Justice Administrative Commission (JAC) that you may experience delays in the payment of your outstanding bills for the next three months. As you are aware, the new 90 day billing rules took effect at the end of August. As a result of that rule, the JAC was swamped with over 4,000 bills arriving at their offices in one day, (in an attempt to beat the new deadline). They believe that it will take them up to three months to catch up on their payments. Once they are caught up, they should be able to return to their regular payment schedule of paying your bills within two weeks.

On a separate note, for the first time since taking over the CAC system in 2004, the JAC has discovered a small group of attorneys that have been billing more than 24 hours in a day. None of the attorneys involved are on the Criminal Registry in Miami-Dade County. (Unfortunately, those involved include a few attorneys from the Civil Dependency Registry in our County.) Please make every effort to keep clear, concise and accurate records if you plan on filing any long form bills. The Screening Committee will not hesitate to take action against any attorney on the Criminal Registry who is found to have submitted any fraudulently billings.

Thank you.
Rick Freedman
FACDL-Miami

THE COURTHOUSE IS EMPTY

North of the Border Circuit Court Judge Ana Gardiner recently commented that the North of the Border courthouse was overflowing with work, to the extent that even closets weren’t available.

Enter Famed Broward Blogger Bill Geilin who took it upon himself to conduct a thoroughly un-scientific but revealing study by walking the Broward courthouse at different times of the day. The result, was the not so surprising conclusion that during the afternoons more than half the courtrooms were locked and empty.

Here is the New Times Article on Mr. Gelin’s courthouse walks
: EMPTY HALLS




CHAMBERS SHOULD BE EMPTY...

Of gifts. As the holiday season approaches, we can all expect to see Judge Farina’s letter advising that gifts should not be given to Judges or their staff, nor should they be accepted. Judges are also advised against attending holiday parties thrown by attorneys who have open cases in their division. (insert your own joke here).


THE COURTHOUSE IS CLOSED. PLEASE CALL AGAIN IN THE MORNING (IF YOU HAVEN’T BEEN EXECUTED FIRST)

And out of Dallas, Texas (motto: we like to kill) comes this Op Ed piece about the shocking execution of a Texas inmate, where the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals would not stay open past 5PM to receive the last minute request for a stay of execution:
We Close At 5 Y'all


What's 20 minutes to you? Two miles on the expressway during rush hour? Time to slurp a latte on the way back to the office? About the time it takes to scan the newspaper you're reading now? To Michael Richard, 20 minutes was probably the difference between life and death.
The Texas death-row inmate's lawyers petitioned for a stay of execution after the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to review the constitutionality of lethal injection. ..

Mr. Richard's lawyers were working on his petition when their computer crashed. They phoned the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, informed its personnel of the computer problems and asked them to stay open long enough to accept the paperwork.
Forget it, replied the court. Time thus ran out for Mr. Richard, who died on the gurney. A court official later said, "I advised the parties that called that we closed at 5."

Just like that.
That is unconscionable.

You might not lose sleep over the fact that the court wouldn't stay open for 20 minutes to help a convicted rapist-murderer's attempt to evade the needle a bit longer. You should think again.
When the state takes the life of a condemned criminal, it must do so with a sense of sobriety commensurate with its grave responsibility. Hastening the death of a man, even a bad one, because office personnel couldn't be bothered to bend bureaucratic procedure was a breathtakingly petty act and evinced a relish for death that makes the blood of decent people run cold.

Rumpole says: Our understanding is that our very own clerk’s office considered dispatching a team to Texas to study their efficiency, until it was realized that the Texas clerks were actually working to 5PM. When the laughter died down, the idea was voted down.

Have A Good Columbus Day Weekend.
No Court Monday. Football Picks Sunday.
See Ya Tuesday.

62 comments:

old guy said...

By my best guess, billing more than 24 hours a day is a crime + maybe KFR can get even with the miscreants.

I think that Randy Maultasch can speak to this issue.

Fake Captain said...

The ASA's call him JOA Joe.
The PD's call him good.
And the defendant's just call him your honor.

Sporting a Sam Slom imitation haircut and exhibiting a no nonsense and fair play approach to the law, there is a new Sheriff in County Court and his name is Joe Fernandez.

Just this week JOA Joe bounced a .07 reading with perfect roadside tests. Other DUIs have similarly fallen by the wayside with a Judge who is not afraid to call them as he sees them.

What's next for County Court's rising superstar? Stay tuned.

CAPTAIN said...

THE CAPTAIN REPORTS:

A reminder to all that newly appointed Circuit Court Judge John Thornton will have his formal Investiture on Friday, October 5, 2007 at 12:15 PM.

Location is 73 West Flagler Street, Courtroom 6-1.

No need to say good luck to John; no one was more deserving of this appointment. Governor Crist, you did well.

CAPTAIN OUT ........

Nutty Attorney Association said...

From the great David Marcus Blog:

"Judge Jordan and Jack Thompson
It's hard to keep up with all the Jack Thompson filings in the Judge Jordan case. The latest is that he tried to get Jordan off the case so that he could name him as a defendant. No go -- from Game Politics:

In an order issued late yesterday, Judge Jordan wrote:


In my opinion, the content of the numerous filings submitted by Mr. Thompson
indicate that he has difficulty separating the legal issues in this case from
broader social issues on which he has strongly-held beliefs. Mr. Thompson
unfortunately appears to believe that every act taken against him, and any
judicial ruling adverse to him, are part of a vast conspiracy designed to
silence him and destroy him.

Judge Jordan has scheduled a hearing for October 9th at 9:30 AM on motions by the defendants (the Florida Bar and Judge Dava Tunis, the referee in Thompson’s Bar disciplinary trial) to dismiss the case.

The judge will also hear from Thompson on a motion regarding the “show cause” order issued from the bench following Thompson’s inclusion of gay porn in a docket filing.


And if you can't get enough of this craziness, here's what happened in Thompson's other lawsuit in front of Judge Huck.

Whew."

Man oh man, this guy makes McGillis look like Roy Black on a good day. What in the name of bar complaints is this guy doing? If ever a lawyer ever deserved to be disbarred I think we have a winner.

Anonymous said...

In all my years I have never read such a legal document:

http://www.gamepolitics.com/images/legal/JT-jordan-conspiracy.pdf

My hat off to the Federal Judge who is doing his best to be fair.

Rumpole and Captain please say something about this.

Anonymous said...

rump

how come you dont do picks for college games anymore, please reconsider

signed
a man richer for knowing you

Anonymous said...

Rumpole this stuff is priceless

http://gamepolitics.com/2007/10/04/jack-thompson-quietly-bows-out-of-other-bar-lawsuit/

Anonymous said...

Rick is wrong again! I got paid in 2 weeks-got my check yesterday.

Anonymous said...

Dear Rumpole, you altruistic/collectivist loser:

Why should I pay for your kids healthcare? It has nothing to do with Iraq, or the environment, or any of the other bogeymen you like to set up to deflect from your welfarist beliefs.

You, idiot, are the moron!

Anonymous said...

"a .07 reading with perfect roadside tests"

why does that go to trial anyway?

Anonymous said...

OK, so what are the names of the OVERBILLERS?

Rumpole said...

Dear Elsworth M Toohey- aka 11:17- you don't get it. Under the system we have, which is semi-collectivist, I would rather the money they take from me be used to pay for children and veterans health care, than Halibuton and Dick Cheney's friends. I don't like the system, and yes, if we didn't have a right wing collectivist in the White House, I would not want my money to be forcibly taken from me to pay for someone else's child- but that is a philosophical debate for something that is not the real world.

In the real world, children in America go hungry, and children in America die from a tooth abscess because Bush and Cheney looted the treasury to pay for Halibuton and Blackwater as the Neo-Cons manipulated Bush into a wrong war so Bush could avenge his Father.

So if they are going to take my money, for Gods sake use it for a sick child, and not Halibuiton.

Understand Elsworth?

Anonymous said...

Rump- Breaking news: Siruis Satellite radio is reporting on Channel 10 that they Blew Up the Chicken man in Philly last night!!!!!

Anonymous said...

don't let em sucker punch you rump.

Rumpole said...
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Rumpole said...

Who do you think you're dealing with here? i was at the Stone Pony watching Bruce when you were in Diapers. That being said, if they indeed did blow up the chicken man in Philly last night, then Meet Me In Atlantic City.

When Medication is Not Enough said...

Jack I am here to help you. Please calm down, relax, take in a deep breath. All-righty, now Jack get a pen and paper write down the following 100 times: "I will not piss off every State and Federal Judge in South Florida by years end".

Very good now lets move on. Open your word processor and prepare a single page no longer than 2 lines "Voluntary Motion to Dismiss". Load your printer as we will need one motion for each case you have pending in State and Federal Court.

Great you should be thrilled as you are on the road to saving your bar card. Next step prepare letters for each Judge and Bar counsel that you have lied too, insulted, libeled... (you get the picture) a one page sincere "I am sorry for being a complete jerk. I now have the correct dosage and meds available and that this will never happen again".

Look at this you are almost at the point of being a real lawyer. Now for the final step and this is very important so read carefully. Wait my bad, I am so sorry I almost forgot before we proceed further get a full glass of water and take your 4pm psychotic pill. Great all done? The final step is you must move to guam and never return to Florida. In exchange my inside sources say you will get to keep your bar card.

Anonymous said...

Dear 11:17:

If the child has no health insurance and goes to the ER or a County Hospital who do you think is paying for that. Idiot.

earl rogers said...

Did anybody see the guy die in Judge Schlesinger's court today? I heard about it from one of my clients who was in court.

Anonymous said...

Rumpy,

Hope you have been well. Is there any truth to the rumor that this blog is financed by billionaire Mitchell Layton?

Just wondering

CK

D-man said...

To 12:25: the question isn't "why does that go to trial anyway?" but rather what Judge wouldn't JOA that? Here are your answers:

Lindsay
Ortiz
Bloom
Newman
Francis
Leifman

the maybes
Arzola
Mills-Francis
Slom

CAPTAIN said...

THE CAPTAIN REPORTS:

ELECTION UPDATE:

Good news - bad news - for Stephen Millan.

Our sources tell us that Judge Roger Silver has finally decided not to seek reelection. That means, GROUP 19 is an open seat and up until today, Mr. Millan was the only one who had filed to run.

Enter Patricia Kopco, a member of the Florida Bar since 1995 and in 2005 she received her Board Certification in Marital & Family Law.

Kopco will not be running in the seat occupied by Eugene Fierro, Group 11. There are already two candidates who have filed for that seat: Jorge E. Cueto and Josie Perez Velis.

CAPTAIN OUT ........

Anonymous said...

He could really screw Millan again by resigning before the end of his term. The seat would then be open for an appointment as it was last time.

Hilda said...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1204788422422349364

Anonymous said...

it's the economy stupid! rumpole, it's not to late to get in on the market.

Anonymous said...

Copco is a good person.

I guess all of Gene Fierro's screaming at attorneys in divorce court is finally catching up with him.

Now, Would someone run again the other really bad judges:

Cindy Leiderman (Mean and agressive)
Lawrence King (makes all kinds of dumb rules and thinks he is in Federal Court)
Peter Adrien (Not liked by anyone)
Jackie Scola (ASA with a robe and does not shut up and listen)
Jeri Cohen (Has had foot in her own mouth for about 10 years)
Maxine Cohen Lando (Not nice to anyone)

Anonymous said...

Prediction - Bennett H. Brummer and Carlos Martinez will both file for Public Defender and then Brummer will drop out once no third
person files for the seat. Carlos
Martinez will then win the seat
by default.

Anonymous said...

Are you really that dumb? Poor kids die of bad teeth b/c of Iraq? You have lost your mind. You just make shit up to create a phony crisis, to be solved by......Government!!

You want to help kids and adults have access to the best healthcare?

Take out the perverse incentives in the system created by the politicians, who were only trying to "help".

When the govt man comes to "help" you, grab your rifle.

Anonymous said...

BTW, when I said I shouldnt have to pay for your kids, I meant YOUR KIDS--as in, kids whose parents make plenty of $ to buy private health insurance.

That is the bill evil Bush vetoed. Maybe the first truly conservative act he's undertaken as president.

Hope to see more of it.

Anonymous said...

ahh captain mcgillis filed his papers on August 31 2007 to run for public office and opened his campaign account in late september so dont beat the cat yet

Anonymous said...

d-man
Bloom would JOA it.
So would Mills Francis
Newman is a maybe
Lindsay believe it or not is a maybe

and as far as I could see Arzola, who is the brightest of the bunch has yet to see a DUI he doesn't like, which is kinda sad, because he is a bright guy and could be a real judge instead of just a rubber stamp for the state on DUI's. (Arzola is good on everything else.)

Rumpole said...

6:11 - you are the worst kind of right winger- a collectivist right winger- not a conservative. The government is helping you in all kinds of ways- just ways Bush and his right wing collectivists approve of.

BTW- nobody helped that boy when he was dying. But somehow, I have the belief that if we were going to loot our national treasury anyway and spend a half a billion dollars (the figure is staggering if you try and use your dim mind and think about it) and spent some of it on health care for children, that doctors would have been available to fix his abscess instead of sending him home with asprin to die.

fake captain said...

Word is JOA JOE was quite the rage on the Judge's email system today.
Word is the superstar of county court was a bit embarassed by the nickname.

This says it all said...

Bandstra!!!

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
He could really screw Millan again by resigning before the end of his term. The seat would then be open for an appointment as it was last time.

Friday, October 05, 2007 4:48:00 PM "

Why is Millan and Silver at each others neck?

Anonymous said...

What is wrong with Josie Perez Velis? I suppose she didn't learn anything from the last round with Judge Murphy.

My vote is going to Cueto.

Anonymous said...

Rumpole, do you actually read what I write? I think Bush has been a big govt president and I dissent from that. How does that make me a right-wing collectivist? I said I completely oppose both forms of collectivism. I do, however, believe the collectivism of the Left is much more dangerous at this point. That is my view. Does not mean I favor Bush at all!! Just that I think the Dems are a little worse, but in very different ways, I agree.

Maybe I'm too anarchistic and bombastic for your tastes. Fine. But to call someone with my stated views a collectivist of any sort is kinda ridiculous.

My Christian Ears Can Take No More... said...

Rumpole my dear friend, why is it that everyone who opposes you is called a "jackass".

May I recommend a few other words with the same effect leaving out the profanity? My top suggestions are:

1. Bonehead
2. Loser
3. Creep
4. Clueless
5. Idiot or Complete Idiot
6. WTF
7. Retard

Children may pass upon the historic blog by Runmpole. In short clean it up a bit "buddy". That reminds me:

#8. "Buddy" (used it a strong yet defined sentence).

Anonymous said...

And the kid that died, died b/c his parents and family failed to get him help IN TIME, not b/c of any other reason-learn the facts of the case.

And I guess you've given up on defending the welfare rights of parents making 100k a yr to get "free" health ins. for their kids?

Now that's collectivism!

Rumpole said...

10:44- I don't know. I guess it's just my perjorative of choice.

10:32 "why ARE..." not "why is..." when referring to more than one individual.

10:46- You are wrong. In this case, unfortunately dead wrong. His mother took her son to the hopsital seeking help. Any comptent doctor looking in his mouth would have seen the abcess and would know that untreated, it could leak into his brain and kill him. Instead, because he didn't have the right insurance, they gave him some asprin and sent him home. he died because no one would perform a 750 proceudre. But hey, as long as Haliburton's profits are up a billion last quarter, everything in this country is just fine. Just fine.

Anonymous said...

10:32 "why ARE..." not "why is..." when referring to more than one individual.

You inconsiderate piece of [bleep]. You as opposed to "you're" when referring to a pile of crap. If you had [as opposed to "have"]calendar all week before Judge Adrian you would get it wrong too [as opposed to "to" or "two"].

Before I visited the blog today I was going to act like a asshole until you beat me too it.

Rumpole said...

By the way, one very misunderstood concept about Ms. Rand was that she scorned altruism. She did not. She correctly noted that every oppressive government justified it's actions on "the good of the people." And she also noted that most oppressive forms of collectivism defended their actions on the good of society. What she objected to was being told that she must- and had no choice in the matter- to care about and take care of someone she did not know, and the philospohical implications behind those ideals.

Therefore, I defend my concern for this young boy who died as completely consistent with objectivism, and quite frankly, with my other beliefs, which hold that life is sacred. This boy's life was wasted by a society that spends hundreds of billions of dollars perfecting ways to kill people- including innocent civilians and children. And I am troubled by that. We have lost over 3,000 Americans in Iraq. Over 100,000 Iraqi's have died at the hands of our weapons. Now this is complicated I grant you, because Iraqi is filled with criminals who have no problem blowing up their own people. Now, I could paint with a very broad brush and say "violence begets violence" and I think that would be fair in the case of Iraq. However, I do not think that would be fair in the case of Afghanistan, where NATO is making real progress. The point is, we need real professionals managing these situations, and we need to break the cycle of violence in Iraq. What we don't need are greedy crooks manipulating a dimwitted president.

Anonymous said...

Weisman Boyz refute early reports of a black porsche doing donuts and painting graffiti at the Falls Shopping Center. Notice Of Alibi produced to the police reveals both Weisman boys spent wednesday eve dining at Casa Tua and then heading upstairs to the club for karaoke night. Case Closed.

Anonymous said...

This whole schip thing reminds me of Steve Martin's holiday wish:

"A Holiday Wish" by Steve Martin
If I had one wish that I could wish this holiday season, it would be for all the children of the world to join hands and sing together in the spirit of harmony and peace.

If I had two wishes that I could wish for this holiday season, the first would be for all the children of the world to join hands and sing in the spirit of harmony and peace . . . and the second would be for $30 million a month to be given to me, tax-free in a Swiss bank account.

You know, if I had three wishes that I could make this holiday season, first, of course, would be for all the children to get together and sing . . . the second would be for the $30 million every month to me . . . and the third would be for all encompassing power over every living being thing in the entire universe.

And if I had four wishes that I could make this holiday season, first would be the crap about the kids . . . second would be for the $30 million . . . the third would be for all the power . . . and the fourth would be to set aside one month each year for an extended 31-day orgasm, to be brought about slowly by Rosanna Arquette and that model Paulina somebody, I can't think of her name. Of course my lovely wife could come, too. She's behind me 100% on this, I guarantee you.

Wait a minute, maybe that sex thing should be the first wish. So, if I made that the first wish, because, you know, it could all go boom tomorrow, and then what have you got? No, no . . . the kids singing would be great, that would be nice. No, no, who am I kidding! I mean, they're not going to be able to get all those kids together! I mean, the logistics of the thing is impossible! It's more trouble than it's worth! So, we reorganize, here we go: first, the sex - we go with that; second, the money. No! We go with the power second, then the money, and then the kids. Oh, wait, oh geez! I forgot about revenge against my enemies! Okay . . . revenge against all my enemies, they should die like pigs in Hell! That would be the fourth wish! . . . and of course, my fifth wish would be for all the children of the world to join hands and sing in the spirit of peace and harmony.

Anonymous said...

I couldnt really care less what Ayn Rand thought. I've read much of her stuff-including Atlas and Fountainhead--pesonal favorite-"Anthem"-but I'm not some lockstep Ayn Rand radical "objectivist". I do think income redistribution via govt fiat is generally immoral and leads to the infantilization of the communities its intended to help. We see that in many neighborhoods in this nation, and this city.

Leave Bush and those idiots out of it-can you really disagree with the deleterious effects the welfare system has had on folks caught in its trap? And please dont say we just need more welfare $ giveaways. Its the worst kind of pandering.

Better to rely on yourself-better to know you'll have to rely on yourself-than to ever expect a bureaucrat or program to solve your problems-whatever they stem from.

Anonymous Liberal said...

Irony officially died yesterday. Commenting on the situation in Burma, the President's Press Secretary actually said this:

Q And the protests, themselves, seem to have been stilled. What do you make of that?

MS. PERINO: Well, unfortunately, intimidation and force can chill peaceful demonstrations. And reports about very innocent people being thrown into detention, where they could be held for years without any representation or charges, is distressing; and we understand that some of the monasteries have been sealed. Now, obviously, this has, again, a chilling effect on protestors, but we would ask that everyone show restraint and allow those who want to express themselves to be able to do so in Burma.

CAPTAIN said...

THE CAPTAIN REPORTS:

A FITTING ENDING (???) TO A SAD STORY ....

Many of you read the unbelievable story about the AUSA in North Florida who was arrested recently after traveling to Michigan to meet a mother and her 5 year old girl for sex. He had met the mother on an internet chat room (an Internet sting operation actually) and he went to Michiagn with a Dora the Explorer in hand (along with petroleum jelly) when he was arrested.

AUSA J.D. Roy Atchison, 53, committed suicide in the Federal Detention Center yesterday.

Atchison's attorney was quoted yesterday as saying that he would seek the have the charges dismissed as "prosecutors are sometimes willing to do so when a defendant does".

CAPTAIN OUT .....

Anonymous said...

12:23pm, you are not a liberal and shame on you for labelling yourelf as such.

An actual liberal would NEVER compare, in any manner the Taliban-supporting barbarians captured on a battlefield in a war THEY started (9-11 predates the Afgan war, remember?)with the monks and other peaceful , loving people protesting the totalitarian military dictatorship that represses every aspect of their life.

And please dont write back that I love Bush, and Iraq, blah, blah, blah. I've never voted Republican in my life. Your moral equivalance is stunning, and pathetic. It is not liberal.

Anonymous said...

the whole thing started from me giving rumpole a couple stock tips after he incorrectly stated that the economy was in shambles. george bush is a dick! but to call me and my ilk collectivists, is a low blow.

did you support invading iraq? if you did, then keep your fucking mouth shut on iraq. i was against invasion from go. but now we are there. should we leave tomorrow? is that what you want rumpole?

Anonymous said...

Shuminer Chaps responded to the SOBE invasion of Pinecrest by going to SOBE Friday night where they participated in feeding the homeless, did voluntary community service by picking up trash on Miami Beach, and planted some flowers in an abandoned lot, before having an ice cream soda and calling it a night.

Anonymous said...

canes..(

Rumpole said...

2:32- such language. And from a lawyer?

Yes, I was in favor of invading Iraq. I believed the lie, that they had WMDs- and I trusted the professionals in the administration to win the war and win the peace. But having read accounts of just how inept the "professionals" were, and just how "out of it" Bush is when it comes to decision making, I hold Bush accountable for the lies and the inability to win the peace after those who know about the history of Iraq told Bush and Paul Bremer in no uncertain terms not to disband the Bath party. All that did was out 250,000 men with guns out of work and make them angry. Hmm....can you say "really really dumb?"

Anonymous said...

Wow, Rumpole! Such faith in govt "professionals"! Maybe you ned to re-read your Rand, after all.

I agree with the 2-32, if you were for invading iraq to start with , shut it up!

Anonymous said...

Also, did 2-32 really shoot a 77 yesterday??

Anonymous said...

then shame on u for giving bush a blank check.

Anonymous said...

Magic word of the NFL weekend, old Rumpy: Vanilla.

That's right-Vanilla Dub and his Boys roll right over another opponent and spread. This time Vanilla extracts revenge on his ex-club, 38-17.

Book it, and get ready for Week 6 and the Pats in Big D.

Rumpole said...

You are upset with me because I was lied to and believed it?

I believed there were WMDs when the CIA knew there were not. And I believed Rumsfeld was capable of managing a war when it turns out he wasn't. I believed Paul Bremer was capable of managing the peace when he wasn't. The fault dear Brutus lies not in our stars but in ourselves. Or In this with the man in charge, namely Cheney.

GO LSU said...

I'm sitting here watching the Gators blow it, and thinking how will Slom and Blake make excuses for Butt Boy Tebow on Tuesday?

Fake Nick Saban said...

oH MY IS fLOrIDA CHOKING???

Anonymous said...

yes i am rumpole. iran has wmd should we invade because they do?? iraq was no threat with or with out wmd but you and the rest of the flock were to emotional to figure that out. after golf war 1 we had destroyed 90% of the "4th strongest millitary." and because they might have had some nerve gas u thought it just and right to invade them?

ps
when iraq nerved the kurds iraq officially blamed iran. guess who went along with it? the us that's who.

rumpole, pluck it out your ass

Anonymous said...

Ayn Rand was upset because "she must- and had no choice in the matter- to care about and take care of someone she did not know..."

I only care about people I know about. The Hutus. Screw 'em. The Sudanese? Screw 'em. Same with the friggin monks of Myanmar.

Not Thomas Aquinus said...

Hey 10:44:00 PM,

Jackass is not about the anus, you donkey!

Bubba

P.S. That bible of yours, it is not to be read literally; it is a metaphor.