Part of those freedoms the men who are buried in France (pictured above) fought for are the right to hold repugnant and unpopular thoughts. This is a uniquely American trait.
We just don't think our soldiers died for the right for a Judge to call people of color "thugs" and "moolies".
We just don't think our soldiers died for the right of the President of the United States to call immigrants "animals".
Both comments dehumanize people, and that is not what this country is about. Nazism dehumanized people. So did slavery which existed in our country for the first seventy-five years.
The best about America is the belief that "All men are created equal." The best about America is that we hold our mistakes out for all to see, and then we strive to be better.
Stay dry and enjoy your day off and remember those who sacrificed for the freedoms we enjoy.
From Occupied America, Fight The Power.
Not a trump fan, didn't vote for him. But we shouldn't strive to purposely misinterpret what he says. It's divisive. It's bad faith. In short, it makes you, well, just like him.
ReplyDeleteThat's not an interpretation of what Trump said. If you didn't listen to the recording in which Trump called immigrants animals -- not gang members, immigrants generally -- then you're not in a position to call Rumpole a bad-faith liar. Imagine telling a judge that opposing counsel had "purposely misinterpreted" a case you never bothered to read.
ReplyDeleteFWIW, I think you may have "purposely misinterpret[ed]" your presidential choice.
moolie is an obviously racist term.
ReplyDeletein no way defending millian but when did "Thug" become a racist term?
I think our president is a thug and he is as white as the day is long
Thug doesn't have to be a racist term. The white nationalists who protested this year were thugs.
ReplyDeleteBut it can be said in a racial context when referring to people of color in this manner- to look at the way people are dressed and their skin color and without knowing more, calling them thugs. The context of the comments attributed to Milian is in that manner. On the other hand, if he spoke to them and they acted thuggish, then the comment is not racist. However, you forfeit your right to being given the benefit of the doubt when you call black people moolies.
Like a good Democrat always spinning what Trump says.
ReplyDeleteHe did not call immigrants " Animals " he called MS-13 Animals.
Stop the fake news. Democrats took the side of Hamas and now of MS- 13 and they
expect to win Congress and the Senate? The American people can smell fake news a
mile away. The Blue Wave is turning pink now by November will be Red Hot! Keep
Spinning and Lying please. See you in November!
On this Memorial Day I wish to pay homage to that American Vietnam war hero John McCain who survived 5 and 1/2 as a prisoner of war and came home as a hero and then ran for public office and married a rich woman.
ReplyDeleteNo I know you liberal haters who write and read this blog who will say McCain killed women and children by dropping napalm on non-military targets. You'll say he destroyed the homes and livestock and crops and killed non-military combatant men. Then he went to the officer's club and drank over it. No conscious, no empathy. Hey. That is a great combination to run for POTUS so you can be commander in chief and order people to kill and be killed.
But John McCain was just following orders in his 26 missions and we needed to stop the spread of communism.Let me say that all the Chinese students being educated in our colleges like MIT, Stanford, the Ivy League and all the Chinese laundromats and restaurants in this country are more of a threat to our nation then a bunch of peasants in Asia. So when McCain dies in the next few weeks remember he killed innocent civilians by dropping napalm on them which is a sophisticated form of gasoline to burn people to death. What a hero!
12:59 I allowed your comment to go up so my readers could see what a genuine moron thinks
ReplyDeleteWere the people milian was referring to, in fact, thugs? Is it automatically racist if they are black? Are there circumstances under which a judge could make that inference for persons in his courtroom? I would infer that any white person in the group of white nationalist protesters in Charlottesville would be thugs by association. Is that wrong? What if the trial were the leader of ms13...can I infer all people who sit on the defense side of the courtroom who dont appear to be his mom, dad, etc are thugs? What if they have tattoos? Or maybe spiderweb tattoos on the elbows is enough?
ReplyDeleteSo I guess he didn't drop napalm on civilians and then be honored as a hero because he was shot down and survived being a prisoner of war.
ReplyDeleteOf course you got to throw in an anti trump zinger on Memorial Day. We all he called Ms 13 Animals, which they are. He did not call immigrants animals. Liberal fake news is becoming a uniquely Democratic trait
ReplyDeleteIt's true 12:59 is a genuine moron. I think 12:23 deserves credit as well. He has not listened to Trump's remarks about immigrants being "animals" or he wouldn't persist in saying that Trump confined his remarks to an identified gang. I don't think he's clever enough to lie about Trump's remarks; I think he's the kind of credulous moron who consumes the pablum of fox news headlines without bothering to check the sources. If I read only headlines of the Washington Post, New York Times, Financial Times, etc. with the same moronic credulity, I'd be ashamed of myself. If he practices law with the same moronic credulity -- e.g., relying on headnotes only or dissenting opinions -- his clients are being disserved.
ReplyDeleteIt's one of the most smacking oddities of Rumpole's commenters. Presumably they're lawyers. I always thought evidentiary rules were fairly good guardians of empirical reality. Doesn't mean you hear everything, but you understand that exclusions are intended to safeguard truth-seeking generally. You understand that arguments can be made about the application of case law to the empirical reality of your case, and for modifications of case law where it is unjust. But we are all essentially tethered to the same case law and the same facts. Although of course it happens, you're not allowed to make stuff up, and you have to source whatever you say. This is our professional discipline.
So I don't understand how so many commenters on this blog became so untethered to reality. By reality, I mean stuff that is reliably sourced so you can make stable observations of real phenomena -- what did Trump say on a certain occasion? what have Democratic party members done to protect members of MS-13 from justice or to promote international crimes by Hamas? The fact that a Democrat is opposed to separating children from their parents at the border does not mean the party supports MS-13. That's illogical. And it makes meaningful dialog impossible.
It's Stephen MILLAN not Alberto MILIAN. The difference is that they are two different people.
ReplyDeleteWe should be careful to distinguish between Steve Millan and Alberto Milian when discussing the current events. I'm sure Milian would not be happy to appear in this google search.
ReplyDeleteTwo commentators call 12:59 a moron. Why? Is what he says true? Do you hate his remarks because they are about a man who is dying, or that you are a fan of McCain? Was the Vietnam war a just war as per the commentaries of St. Thomas Acquinas. 3 presidents avoided serving in that war: Trump, Clinton and Bush. Do you label 12:59 a moron because you feel it was okay for the U.S. to drop napalm on civilians in the name of stopping communism across the globe when we still have not adequately addressed the genocide of native Americans, slavery,and continued sentencing disparities and racism in the criminal justice system and last time I looked not too many white people have to be afraid of being shot to death over a minor traffic infraction. Maybe the critics are just haters like so many current commentators in the U.S. who want to hate and ignore facts in the process.
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