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Tuesday, July 15, 2014

JUST A NORMAL TRAFFIC STOP....

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between a cop on patrol and an IA Louie. Of course it ends up in a fight. It's Miami. As David Ovalle likes to say "arroz con mango".

FROM THE WHITE HOUSE TO THE BIG HOUSE:
Can a former (GWB) deputy white house counsel beat his wife senseless with a flashlight and get away with it? 
Not if you're John Farren. The former Xerox counsel and deputy white house counsel in the last Bush administration was convicted Friday (Rumpole's rule of trials- avoid Friday verdicts at all costs) of attempted murder and was taken into custody. Farren smacked his wife when she served him with divorce papers. 



26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Cops fighting Cops
Front page of the Herald
Oh MY

Anonymous said...

The uniformed officer did nothing wrong. The lieutenant should have ID'd himself as soon as the officer approached the window, instead of arguing and then trying to get out of his car.

The uniformed officer had no reason at the time to know who he was dealing with and he used textbook self-defense maneuvers.

Anonymous said...

What is this suspicious little email I received early this morning from judicialethix101@gmail discussing "Judicial Candidate Diaz's Ultra conflict"?

Anonymous said...

good for him for taking the initiative to buy a camera to protect himself.

Anonymous said...

Rump, this little video bubbled over an exasperation that has been brewing in my head for a while.

Nothing will happen to either of these two cops; certainly, nothing close to what would happen to a similarly situated civilian. They will be cut loose to act this way with you, me, or one of our clients -- sans video of course.

I've been thinking. Between the militarization of law enforcement, where everything beyond a traffic stop is met with a heavily armed paramilitary response and indeed military weapons and vehicles, to cops getting drunk on the job, to cops shooting first and asking questions later, to, now, cops fighting with each other and secretly taping it, is there any doubt that law enforcement in this community and perhaps the country has lost its soul?

The days of civilian peace officers that you could tell your kids to seek out when in trouble are long gone. It is becoming more and more difficult not to correct my little one when he calls cops "good guys" and the people they go after "bad guys."

We, in the criminal defense community, have seen this kind of cowboy police culture -- and raised the alarm about it -- for as long as I can remember. The heavy handedness, the racial profiling, the lying, the covering up for each other. It's nothing to new to us. But it has gotten worse. And, isn't it clear that nobody outside our circle is listening? Or, if they are, just don't care?

The police unions in this city -- mafia like in how they operate -- make no apologies, defend malfeasance as if they have some sacred duty to do so when the misfeasor is a cop, never single out the bad apples in their own ranks. But -- and I don't for the life of me know how -- they retain enormous political and popular clout. In their eyes, cops have no flaws. Whatever shortcomings there are, we could never understand because we are only civilians, and in any event all problems could easily be fixed with more artillery, more pay, more benefits, more rights. They want more for themselves than they would ever give to anyone who is not a cop -- ie, the people they are supposed to serve.

And, then, there are the enablers. The judges who know, but look the other way, at obvious have truths and outright lies in their courtrooms. The prosecutors who do mental gymnastics to protect cops and prosecute cases that they know smell of misconduct. Is it true that a cop assaulted an attorney in an elevator in front of a veteran ASA last week, and that nothing came of it?

If anything, the video you posted makes it clear why there are not more video cameras in cop cars. The video would actually expose the bad guys, whom, as we know, would as often as not, be wearing a badge.

Rump, am I too doom and gloom? Or, has law enforcement gotten to a place culturally, where they play by their own rules and it's them versus everyone else (ie, the civilians)? And nobody but us will ever give a shit?

Oh, and what is up with Stanton not being able to hit just one homer in the semi-final round last night?!?

Yours truly,
Pissed in General


Rumpole said...

No matter how well intentioned the comment about condolences is a private matter and I am reluctant to print it.

Anonymous said...

734 is Fb Rdb or b because of that stupid "oh my" comment.
Ban them all I say.

Anonymous said...

She shoulda stuck to art history.....

Anonymous said...

Road officer did nothing wrong.

Jumping out of your car at an armed police officer who has no idea who the hell you are is a good way to get shot.

Calmly stating that you are a lieutenant with the department, showing your ID and waiting fifteen seconds before being let go is the adult way to handle this.

You would expect more from a seasoned officer who works for Internal Affairs and supposedly "judges" the actions of other police officers.

Anonymous said...

Suspended and unlicensed lawyer Saul Cimbler and high school graduate and destroyer of Ivan Hernandez' judicial career Juan D'Arce are continuing their bottom feeding efforts in the sidelines of politics. Can't blame them money is hard to come by for people of their ilk.

Anonymous said...

I'm curious ... why did the officer have a GoPro in his car recording what he was doing?

A regular reader of your blog said...


Why did you allow the post at 6:41 pm. ?


What happens to your Rules? Did they change?

"I have a few simple rules. I do not moderate based on content other than content that 1) attacks a person's physical characteristics- i.e.., joe schmo is fat; 2) discusses a person's personal life- see above; 3) is a complete ad hominem attack- i.e.., rumplole is a bad lawyer who never shows up to court, cheats his clients, loses all his trials, dresses poorly, and has bad taste in wine. "

Please consider removing the post.

Thank you.

Rumpole said...

Tell me what about 6:41 isn't true?

Rumpole said...

Not Eligible to Practice Law in Florida
Bar Number:
510106
Address:

PO Box 11366
Miami, FL 33101
United States
Phone:
786-286-1100
Email:
saulcimbler@gmail.com
vCard:

County:
Broward
Circuit:
17
Admitted:
10/25/1985
10-Year Discipline History:
Yes
Law School:
University of Miami School of Law
Graduation Year:
1985
Degree:
Doctor of Jurisprudence/Juris Doctor

Anonymous said...

I think that there's more than meets the eye in regards to this incident between the two cops.

First, as 8:19 asked: why did this officer have a GoPro in his car? Has he been recording everything that he's been doing while on-duty for a while, or is this coincidentally the first time that he was recording his on-duty activities?

Also, if you watch the extended version of the video (it's on the website that originally broke this story) you can see everything from the moment that the Lieutenant passed the officer on 17th Avenue. If you look closely you'll notice that almost immediately after the Lieutenant passes the officer, the officer engages his emergency lights (this is when you can hear a digital tone on the video; that tone is heard in the patrol car so that the police officer can tell when his emergency lights are on and avoid driving aimlessly with them on). This gives me the impression that the cop was already on the lookout for this car.

Then, when the stop occurs, the officer approaches and we can see that there's some type of dialogue going on. After a bit, the driver of the stopped car opens his door in a normal manner. He didn't shove the door into the cop or anything aggressive like that. Then the officer starts shoving the driver and finally takes him to the ground.

But for all of you speculating as to why the Lieutenant did not identify himself, listen to the video where the officer is calling "Ricky" where he tells this person that the Lieutenant identified himself as such and that he flashed him his badge or id. So, by the officer's own admission, the driver did, in fact, identify himself before opening the door of the vehicle.

This doesn't add up. Given the tension between police officers and brass at the Miami Police Department, I wouldn't doubt that this is something that was cooked-up beforehand as a "setup."

It doesn't look good for either side though. You could say that the Lieutenant could have avoided the whole thing by just staying in his car and letting everything play out. But we don't know what the officer said to the driver when he came up on him.

Anonymous said...

The patrolman did nothing wrong. At all - but the media spin is that he acted suspiciously by immediately calling his supervisor to report the incident. Huh? Isn't that a textbook response? oh yeah - and the go-pro camera on the dash: maybe its his investment for situations just like this. We wouldn't be talking about it if there wasn't video. Sorry to go there but I have to ask if race is an issue. IA jerk was transferred. Patrolman was suspended with pay. Justice at its finest.

Anonymous said...

Seems to me that if he is listed on the bar site, he is a lawyer.

Anonymous said...

Pissed in General...........seek therapy.

Anonymous said...

Rumple - why is lil jay weaver abruptly not reporting on the pizzi trial? Cases must be going well for the defense. Weaver is terrible.

Anonymous said...

CYA

Anonymous said...


A constitution of government once changed from freedom can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.”


– John Adams, in a letter to his wife, July 17, 1775

Rumpole said...

yeah, I really lose sleep over my loss of credibility with you. Stop reading if you don't like it jackass.

Anonymous said...

9:27, you should refer to the disbarred lawyer by his full name so as nobody thinks you are talking about the prominent and highly ethical lawyer that has that last name

Anonymous said...

10:18,
I don't think officer was looking for this car.
The IA guy passed the patrol car at a high rate of speed.
Don't you know you never pass a marked patrol car?

Anonymous said...

Hector I bet you won't tell them face to face. Why? You are a PC coward. Our money is on Saul.

Shameful that you ran a candidate against two judges in consecutive elections and sit on a JNC. Show a little ethics chantajista.

Seth Sklarey said...

For many years I have been advocating that police officers should be prohibited by their department from using profanity. In my experience and opinion, profanity often accompanies excessive use of force, macho behavior and unacceptable results. When you add steroids, alcohol or dope to the mix it can be deadly. Mandatory cameras on police cars and worn by ifficers would reduce a lot of unnecessary force, improper behavior and downright rudeness on the part of officers. Likewise people who are detained by police would likely be on better behavior if they knew they were being recorded. In our new Orwellian world where there is a camera in every store, in every pocket cell phone and being worn by Google Glassholes as the wearers of Google Glass have been tagged, full recordings will make life in court so much more clear cut. However, with police recordings there must be rules amd regulations. For example, there must be a date and time imprint, so viewers could see if the recording is edited or tampered with. The police camera may NEVER be turned off, so there can never be an on the record off the record coercion. F. Lee Bailey once told me that he ordered his court reporters to never stop typing because when the Judge said went off the record was when he would get screwed or found in contempt.
There is never an acceptable reason for cops to seize or destroy avrecording, although an argument could be made to preserve evidence or protect undercover officers or confidential informants, but no excuse to destroy camers, recorders, cell phone, sim cards, memory cards, film or tape. Law is yet to be written or made on this subject. Meanwhile kudos to Al Crespo, Carlos Miller of PINAC and Miami Police Chief Manny Orosa for recognizing cameras as the wave of the future.
Also, since most courtrooms now have recording devices, why shouldn't defendants and litigants be allowed to record proceedings. And maybe it's time to eliminate the blanket prohibibition of cameras in Federal Court Buildings, and the unequal protectoon of the law that allows attorneys but not litigants to have callphones, Ipads and cameras in Court.