tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post116502210314353569..comments2024-03-28T19:01:34.507-04:00Comments on THE BLOG: WHY DID THE PROSECUTOR CROSS THE ROAD?Rumpolehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08380575650255695462noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1167402201888634192006-12-29T09:23:00.000-05:002006-12-29T09:23:00.000-05:00Thanks a lot for such a wonderful site i see that ...Thanks a lot for such a wonderful site i see that you created it going the whole hog!! <BR/>- www.blogger.com b <BR/><A HREF="http://spaghettiallacarbonara.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">spaghetti alla carbonara</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1166471133305614772006-12-18T14:45:00.000-05:002006-12-18T14:45:00.000-05:00Thanks for the good site. - www.blogger.com 7 ph...Thanks for the good site. <BR/>- www.blogger.com 7 <BR/><A HREF="http://phenterminefatal.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">phentermine</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165449943445522142006-12-06T19:05:00.000-05:002006-12-06T19:05:00.000-05:00I hope the ASA's reading this chain remember this ...I hope the ASA's reading this chain remember this EVERY Monday when the over fed private attys stroll in with their ties crooked, feigning exhaustion from running from the parking lot next door or another court room only to beg for the breakdown THIS client deserves because he's cross-eyed, has natural HGN, can only walk a line in Nike Shox (not provided by the officer...obviously a prick with no conscience for comfort and accuracy in taking ten steps), is joining the Marines next week, has already taken DUI school prior to Sounding, and who would most certainly be found not guilty if only he had asked for an independent blood draw or breath test OR had the source code for the Intoxilyzer. <BR/><BR/>These will also be the attys who will scream about their clients rights and boldly object when you ask for Restitution.<BR/><BR/>Remember their faces.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165319076868321682006-12-05T06:44:00.000-05:002006-12-05T06:44:00.000-05:0012:05 is right. Don and Jose can lead the office ...12:05 is right. Don and Jose can lead the office IF KFR were to put one of them in charge. The big problem is that you have too many Chiefs, all of whom carry the same rank. The infighting is tremendous. KFR needs a clear number 2 empowered to do what needs to get done so the office can move more efficiently and the managers can start focusing on the ASAs instead of each other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165295125237810092006-12-05T00:05:00.000-05:002006-12-05T00:05:00.000-05:00Mary Cagle's leaving the SAO was a tremendous loss...Mary Cagle's leaving the SAO was a tremendous loss, not only for the SAO, but this community. It created a major void in the SAO. Mary had a level of common sense, and was old school. She was straight, and endeavored to avoid abusive or vindictive conduct by the SAO. Jose Arroyo was a good choice and earnest effort by the SAO to fill the void left my Mary’s departure. But Mary had Kathy's ear, respect, and trust - she was Kathy's go to person to handle difficult issues. I suspect Jose, as deserving as he is, has not earned the same level of confidence from Kathy as Mary, and of course, the corollary of confidence is empowerment. The top echelon of the SAO needs tuning. Kathy needs to designate and empower a leader in that tier. A leader who understands this complex community; has credibility with the bench and defense bar; and, what is more important, one who possesses the common sense, determination, and pragmatism to do what is actually just and ultimately right - not what is politically correct or politically expedient. I think either Don or Jose possess these qualities, but they need unconditional backing from Kathy. As a Chinese proverb says - “an army of a thousand is easy to find, but, ah, how difficult to find a general.” oh well!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165284397531677032006-12-04T21:06:00.000-05:002006-12-04T21:06:00.000-05:00there's an ASA in Ortiz (the short one) such a dic...there's an ASA in Ortiz (the short one) such a dick! Even Ortiz hates him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165267386875489392006-12-04T16:23:00.000-05:002006-12-04T16:23:00.000-05:00Anonymous said... NO I WILL NOT?Rumpole, the comme...Anonymous said... <BR/>NO I WILL NOT?<BR/><BR/>Rumpole, the comment was asking why you would narrow your id to those that park in that lot, by writing that post, you have narrowed your id to one of those lawyers<BR/><BR/><BR/>RUMPOLE SAYS: No I didn't. I take the bus to work on days when it is too hot to pedal my bicycle. Plus I park with the Judges.Rumpolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08380575650255695462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165263376647643772006-12-04T15:16:00.000-05:002006-12-04T15:16:00.000-05:00Say what you will about the PD's office, but the t...Say what you will about the PD's office, but the training i received there was great. at statewide conferences the miami pd's were way ahead of their statewide counterparts. after just a few years at the pd's office i was able to leave and open my own practice, comfortable in the fact that i learned the foundation i needed to give my clients the representation they deserve.<BR/><BR/>as a side note, i went to a few statewide asa/pd conferences, and the miami asa's were also significantly better than their statewide counterparts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165261530216111232006-12-04T14:45:00.000-05:002006-12-04T14:45:00.000-05:00NO I WILL NOT?Rumpole, the comment was asking why ...NO I WILL NOT?<BR/><BR/>Rumpole, the comment was asking why you would narrow your id to those that park in that lot, by writing that post, you have narrowed your id to one of those lawyers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165257650093566042006-12-04T13:40:00.000-05:002006-12-04T13:40:00.000-05:00how about for a tuna fish combo with a cookie of c...how about for a tuna fish combo with a cookie of course.........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165257313216285622006-12-04T13:35:00.000-05:002006-12-04T13:35:00.000-05:00And, in addition, the SAO has supervisors who open...And, in addition, the SAO has supervisors who openly, and quite without shame, admit that the SAO was involved in a practice which is obviously a violation of the law. Mr. Arrojo, we still have not heard you reasons for saying the practice is legal. What's wrong, a Fla. Stat. book got your toung?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165256811630553272006-12-04T13:26:00.000-05:002006-12-04T13:26:00.000-05:00Anonymous said:Rump, you are full of sh*t with tha...Anonymous said:<BR/>Rump, you are full of sh*t with that post. They may be sworn to protect the innocent before prosecuting the guilty, some may actually try although I think that's a small minority, most are prosecuting whatever comes along oblivious to the fact that police lie, cheat and steal to convict people regardless of their guilt or innocence. Too many officers have told me I may know the law in a Court but on the streets they are the law. That attitude, and the lack of a critical eye this SAO office has and fosters in its young prosecutors, makes me question just what justice it is they are seeking. I will continue to consider them a necessary evil in a free society. <BR/><BR/>Rumpole replies: You and I and Mr. Laeser can distinguish a good arrest from a bad one, and a good case from a bad one. How do you expect a lawyer 6 months out of school to know a bad cop and stand up to them? Experience is the key, and that is why these prosecutors are in county court. The mistakes they make while gaining experience are much less likely to hurt someone. <BR/><BR/>That being said, I do agree that the level of supervision leaves something to be desired. They are over supervised but for the most part the supervisors are just as clueless as the people they supervise. The PD's office has very very experienced lawyers as supervisors in County Court. Is it too much to ask the SAO to have supervisors with 5 years exerience instead of 5 months, in County Court? Apparently.Rumpolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08380575650255695462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165256137554541192006-12-04T13:15:00.000-05:002006-12-04T13:15:00.000-05:00Anonymous said... Who gives a hoot about what kind...Anonymous said... <BR/>Who gives a hoot about what kind of car "private" lawyers drive. Truth is that most of you (Rump you too I would guess), would take a DUI for 1/2 a ham sandwich at the Pickle Barrel and would never try a serious felony.<BR/><BR/>Rumpole says: You should know that you and most other individuals cannot afford my services. Why? Not because I am so great, but because I am devoted to giving client's my full attention. I do not have a high volume practice. I am against that type of practice of law. It offends my personal sense of obligation to a client. So I charge a lot, so I can spend time on a case, so I can do a good job. Thus, I do not take cases for 1/2 sandwiches, and I would venture that I try more felonies in six months than you have ever tried. But that is just my guess.Rumpolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08380575650255695462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165255783146694302006-12-04T13:09:00.000-05:002006-12-04T13:09:00.000-05:00Anonymous said... why rumpole would you narrow you...Anonymous said... <BR/>why rumpole would you narrow your identity to the lawyers who park in the lot west of the courthouse? I park there and can name just about every other lawyer who parks there<BR/><BR/><BR/>NO I WILL NOTRumpolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08380575650255695462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165254034414896312006-12-04T12:40:00.000-05:002006-12-04T12:40:00.000-05:00Don is not the problem. KFR is. She's a terrible...Don is not the problem. KFR is. She's a terrible SA and we can do a lot better. There's a poll for you, who should be the next SA?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165253125980953742006-12-04T12:25:00.000-05:002006-12-04T12:25:00.000-05:00I agree. Here are a few people that could do a be...I agree. Here are a few people that could do a better job:<BR/><BR/>Abe Laesar<BR/>Bobo the Clown<BR/>Mary Cagle<BR/>Steve Talpins<BR/>Homer Simpson<BR/>Reed Rubin<BR/>Mr. Smithers<BR/>Laura Adams<BR/>Hila Katz<BR/>Barney<BR/>Stewie<BR/>Little Bo Peep (even without her sheep) and,<BR/>Jerry Mouse (with Tom in chase).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165252896748760892006-12-04T12:21:00.000-05:002006-12-04T12:21:00.000-05:00That is B.S. If Don was more capable, then he wou...That is B.S. If Don was more capable, then he would be able to do those things compitently. He is not a problem solver. Other people could do that job far better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165248327818179322006-12-04T11:05:00.000-05:002006-12-04T11:05:00.000-05:00Don Horn is not the cause of the SAO's problems. ...Don Horn is not the cause of the SAO's problems. He has the worst job in the office..........he's stuck dealing with the problems others caused and can't deal with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165247595098058562006-12-04T10:53:00.000-05:002006-12-04T10:53:00.000-05:00Its great to be a Florida Gator!Its great to be a Florida Gator!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165246520363238242006-12-04T10:35:00.000-05:002006-12-04T10:35:00.000-05:00Don Horn is the worst administrator ever. He has ...Don Horn is the worst administrator ever. He has no idea how to lead that office. His policies are a joke and he is not smart enough to understand when it is appropriate to discipline and when it is appropriate to back his prosecutors. Kathy needs to fire his ass and bring is somebody like Talpins that had the ability to lead by example, who would work hard enough to set a good example, and, who was willing to take the time to meet with prosecutors to see how things were going.<BR/><BR/>Turnover is not caused by the low salaries, it is caused by mismanagement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165240379436944932006-12-04T08:52:00.000-05:002006-12-04T08:52:00.000-05:00The Miami-Dade SAO provides as much or more traini...The Miami-Dade SAO provides as much or more training to its misdemeanor prosecutors as any other prosecutor's office in the country. The training at the county court level is NOT the issue. The training at the felony level is, however, weak. Unfortunately, the office refuses to adequately staff its training "division." Rather, it relies only on one or two attorneys and the DCs (many of whom are great trial lawyers but HATE managing and training others. Gee, I wonder why that doesn't work?).<BR/><BR/>Still, the real problem is turnover. These folks are promoted WAY before they are ready (before they learn the law, understand courtroom strategies, gain perspective, etc.). <BR/><BR/>Most prosecutors I worked with want to do justice. Some are misguided, others don't get it. Some just don't have the life experiences to draw from that would enable them to understand what's happening around them (it took my the better part of a decade to gain true perspective). Thus, I believe the SAO SHOULD restrict the young prosecutors' ability to plea cases and should encourage supervisors to consider lowering offers where appropriate. That though, is an incomplete solution as the "experienced" supervisors (ie. Chiefs) often are too junior to make the right decisions themselves. I remember when becoming a felony DC took 7-8 years. Now, it's what, 3-4? THAT's why things have devolved the way they have. <BR/><BR/>Obviously, the poor salary and benefits, student loans and other financial burdens contribute to the turnover. But, I'd argue that other morale killing factors are also important. Regardless, the turnover issue needs to be addressed before any of this can be alleviated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165239785059024472006-12-04T08:43:00.000-05:002006-12-04T08:43:00.000-05:00There is no MSU in Miami-Dade for most cases. The...There is no MSU in Miami-Dade for most cases. The SAO only files cases that cannot be filed directly by the police efficiently or where felony cases may be warranted (ie. DUI crash cases where a blood result is pending). There is no way the SAO could have a MSU without dramatically increasing its workforce. Further, a MSU would cost a fortune in law enforcement time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165231127680811062006-12-04T06:18:00.000-05:002006-12-04T06:18:00.000-05:00A misdemeanor screening unit (MSU) does exist. How...A misdemeanor screening unit (MSU) does exist. However, the screening is minimal at best - usually reserved for those too poor to bond out. Some of those cases could very well get no actioned if they're bogus. As for other cases - since officers can file charges directly at the misdemeanor level, it would take an MSU ASA again in those cases to make a decision to nolle prosse an unprovable case or questionable case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165223052167124842006-12-04T04:04:00.000-05:002006-12-04T04:04:00.000-05:00Hello. Good day Who listens to what music? I Love ...Hello. Good day <BR/>Who listens to what music? <BR/>I Love songs Justin Timberlake and Paris HiltonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1165202011986536612006-12-03T22:13:00.000-05:002006-12-03T22:13:00.000-05:00Getting close to rock bottom in your posts today. ...Getting close to rock bottom in your posts today. Ugly + stupid comments galore! <BR/><BR/>Pissed at the world? <BR/><BR/>Need sex with another person?<BR/><BR/>Did you people spend too much on gifts already?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com