tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post9154605191775605579..comments2024-03-28T19:01:34.507-04:00Comments on THE BLOG: SEEK ONLY TRUTHRumpolehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08380575650255695462noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-22265043850380704052011-07-23T01:09:56.938-04:002011-07-23T01:09:56.938-04:00The argument that a trial as practiced in the US j...The argument that a trial as practiced in the US justice system is a search for the truth is ridiculous, especially when the defendant is not required to testify. Take away the death penalty, use professionals to judge guilt, and require the defendant to testify - then you'll be much more likely to get close to the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-19317124618922665182011-07-15T01:42:07.513-04:002011-07-15T01:42:07.513-04:00New sign:
Ask me no questions and I'll tell y...New sign:<br /><br />Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-56258078247131145202011-07-13T22:44:17.821-04:002011-07-13T22:44:17.821-04:00MC
I do not think Hesse was talking about traffi...MC <br /> I do not think Hesse was talking about traffic tickets in that metaphor,<br />DSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-1609798651120250052011-07-13T13:51:57.977-04:002011-07-13T13:51:57.977-04:00DS
If that is on the wall, then I am left with no...DS<br /><br />If that is on the wall, then I am left with no other advice to give my clients. I prefer to save that gem for my consults. <br /><br />MCMaster Chiefnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-4246804175851927252011-07-13T13:27:10.085-04:002011-07-13T13:27:10.085-04:00Mater Chef
how about
You makes your choice and
...Mater Chef<br /> how about<br /> You makes your choice and<br /> you pays your ticket<br />DSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-41738304458858283472011-07-13T11:50:55.444-04:002011-07-13T11:50:55.444-04:00It's obvious:
"We Who Labor Here Seek On...It's obvious:<br /><br />"We Who Labor Here Seek Only Justice"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-31360802840951584012011-07-13T10:58:27.993-04:002011-07-13T10:58:27.993-04:00DS
Equal Justice Under Law is also very good.
J...DS<br /><br />Equal Justice Under Law is also very good. <br /><br />Just not very funny. <br /><br />Master Chief.Master Chiefnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-17637798114272146982011-07-13T07:20:35.856-04:002011-07-13T07:20:35.856-04:00Master Chef
how about
Equal Justice Under Law
DS...Master Chef<br /> how about<br /> Equal Justice Under Law<br />DSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-55132053316535316222011-07-13T07:09:46.269-04:002011-07-13T07:09:46.269-04:00At least "we who labor here seek only the tru...At least "we who labor here seek only the truth" is better than what they had above the judge in the Casey Anthony trial: "In god we trust." Uggghh!<br /><br />Shouldn't "In God we trust" be only on US money which, of course, is where Jesus would want it, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-5092164200536496222011-07-13T06:50:02.900-04:002011-07-13T06:50:02.900-04:00How about this truth:
Louis Jepeway is cuckoo for...How about this truth:<br /><br />Louis Jepeway is cuckoo for cocoa puffs and the fact that he has time to attack the signs hanging in the courtroom is about as important as attacking the carpeting.<br /><br />Seriously Louie, do you want to be known in the REG bldg as a lawyer who provides top notch legal counsel for his clients? Or do you want to be known as the nutty lawyer serving as the sign police?<br /><br />Thankfully, my practice is busy enough that I dont have to worry about signs in the courtroom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-79390616225796570892011-07-12T23:49:31.275-04:002011-07-12T23:49:31.275-04:00---How about a new sign then Mr. Rumpole ---
&qu...---How about a new sign then Mr. Rumpole ---<br /><br />"Ties and jackets are optional in the summer"<br /><br />"Lawyers will be taken out of turn to make your lives easier"<br /><br />"No defendant will be punished for going to trial"<br /><br />"Please don't run against me in the next election"<br /><br />"I am state oriented - I am defense oriented - I am so confused as I haven't read a Law Weekly since 1989"<br /><br />"Free parking validation in the attorney's lot for all law enforcement officers"<br /><br />"Please see the Maitre'd for priority seats in the electric chair"<br /><br />"$500 contributions will get you one continuance" (Woops, this one didn't seem to work for reelection)<br /><br />"Preferential rulings to any attorney who takes me to Joe's for Jumbo Claws"<br /><br />"If the legislature lowers my salary any more, I will personally valet park your car when you come for calendar call"<br /><br />"Truth is optional"<br /><br />"My name is Judge Jorge Friedman Cohen-Rodriguez and I am president of FAWL and CABA and I live in Aventura"<br /><br />"Jury of your peers? - yea right!"<br /><br />"2 million guilty verdicts served"<br /><br />"Please give notice of your future ineffective assistance of counsel demand PRIOR to trial"FORMER JUDGEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-76484726260595025482011-07-12T22:54:05.752-04:002011-07-12T22:54:05.752-04:00The jury assumes the lawyers know more about the f...The jury assumes the lawyers know more about the facts of the case than they'll ever be allowed to learn (objections on evidence and sidebars and all); a trial therefore is a contest of which lawyer the jury believes is giving them the whole truth.George Frobishernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-59670963872380366162011-07-12T22:00:22.695-04:002011-07-12T22:00:22.695-04:00I'm not the one who tried to post something ab...I'm not the one who tried to post something about cripples, or as we in the PC age call physically handicapped <br /><br />But I did send in a post regarding the pending truth motion and ammendments to include other areas of the building. <br /><br />If you don't post it, and don't mention it, does that mean it never got to you, or it just sucked so bad you refused to post it?<br /><br />Not being accusatory, just curious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-72120469953237717162011-07-12T21:42:52.522-04:002011-07-12T21:42:52.522-04:00You can't possibly think I would post a commen...You can't possibly think I would post a comment in which you make fun of three crippled people, do you?Rumpolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08380575650255695462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-81473005966507600822011-07-12T21:18:14.462-04:002011-07-12T21:18:14.462-04:00to quote a great sage
"All people know the ...to quote a great sage <br /><br />"All people know the same truth. Our lives consist of how we choose to distort it."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-38393567882204064682011-07-12T18:52:37.191-04:002011-07-12T18:52:37.191-04:00I like what you wrote, but wanted to add this thou...I like what you wrote, but wanted to add this thought. I think the ultimate goal of any trial is to uncover the truth. The restrictions around what can be presented to a jury are a compromise reflecting society's valuation of certain freedoms as greater than unfettered pursuit. Beyond a reasonable doubt is simply the standard which we have set to establish truth. This is in recognition of the fact that no one who wasn't present and involved can know the truth in any absolute fashion. That we allow a jury to believe someone guilty but find them otherwise is a not reflection on what is being pursued, but rather that we value justice more than retribution when we do not feel secure in a person's guilt. It is the court's, the attorneys' and the jury's job to work out whether there exists a reasonable doubt, but sad is the day when any of them pursue something other than the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-5410788716779132462011-07-12T18:50:15.781-04:002011-07-12T18:50:15.781-04:00For those of you so concerned about the "trut...For those of you so concerned about the "truth" signs in the court rooms, I would like to hear what suggestions you may have for a replacement slogan, if it were mandatory for there to be something posted?<br /><br />I always like the phrase which said that better ten guilty men go free than one innocent man suffer a false conviction, or whatever it is. It captures the imperfection of the system. <br /><br />How about "We can only do what we can do, given what we are given?"<br /><br />Given the number of cases in Dade, and in the interests of brevity, I may also suggest, "Next!"<br /><br />Would love to hear others suggestions- real or comical.Master Chiefnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-89947077173966192132011-07-12T18:37:56.786-04:002011-07-12T18:37:56.786-04:00I think you are all a bit misguided here.
Truth ...I think you are all a bit misguided here. <br /><br />Truth means a variety of things, but in the context of the jury system what results is a consensus theory of truth. A small subset of people together decide that which becomes truth. <br /><br />What occurs is they come to this consensus based upon the perceptions of the members of the group, which is formed often by relying on the perception of others, ie witnesses. <br /><br />When we talk about truth in court, it is always in the context of motive, bias, mistake and the like. But what is "reality" is flexible, subjective. We evaluate the perceptions of the witnesses in the light of our own experience and our perceptions. Truth becomes what we make it. Other people's perceptions become true if they fit into our collective experience.<br /><br />Mathematics deals in truth - absolute truth. That which can be proven and observed. <br /><br />2+2=4 <br />2=4-2<br />4-2=2<br /><br />Perception can never be as absolute as a mathematical equation. In court we strive for truth, but we settle for something much less. <br /><br />But perhaps the best way to sum it up is as the great philosopher George Costanza said, "remember, a lie isn't a lie if you believe it to be true."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-39381595886271034572011-07-12T17:27:41.337-04:002011-07-12T17:27:41.337-04:00Innocence vs Not Guilty. Innocent is not on the v...Innocence vs Not Guilty. Innocent is not on the verdict form. Innocence is found at the Maternity Ward. They should call Barry Sheck's organization "The Not Guilty Project."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-48045989763732422692011-07-12T16:30:48.982-04:002011-07-12T16:30:48.982-04:00I like the idea of using "proven/not proven&q...I like the idea of using "proven/not proven" versus "guilty/not guilty" - any reason why we aren't using that already?4813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-27265876008327180642011-07-12T16:01:00.017-04:002011-07-12T16:01:00.017-04:00Well put rumpy.Well put rumpy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-14193685775623559052011-07-12T14:09:47.768-04:002011-07-12T14:09:47.768-04:00Dershowitz is right on the money. If a criminal tr...Dershowitz is right on the money. If a criminal trial were a search for the truth, the prosecution would call the Defendant as a witness. There would be no exclusionary rule. Jurors would get to do their own investigations and report back to the jury room. In fact, a criminal trial is often more about not seeking the truth than otherwise. Kudos to Dershowitz.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-7021592678505800002011-07-12T12:27:56.899-04:002011-07-12T12:27:56.899-04:00Truth:
Luke you will find that Truth is a matter ...Truth: <br />Luke you will find that Truth is a matter of perspective<br /> Obi wan Kenobi<br /><br />Your Truth, His/Her Truth, The State's Truth or the Defendant's Truth or the ULTIMATE Truth ....<br />DSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-37574701272857438512011-07-12T10:47:08.733-04:002011-07-12T10:47:08.733-04:00Rumpole - how about the basic tenet of a hearsay e...Rumpole - how about the basic tenet of a hearsay exception .... "Your Honor, we are not offering the testimony for the TRUTH of the matter asserted".<br /><br />Really???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19039943.post-56664060344856106202011-07-12T10:29:42.748-04:002011-07-12T10:29:42.748-04:00Oh Twosie! Tootle loo! Can you give us a truthful ...Oh Twosie! Tootle loo! Can you give us a truthful review of something? And make it sublime darling. We love and miss you.<br /><br />The boys of So be...Toosie fan clubnoreply@blogger.com