Sunday, June 08, 2008

PDS FIRED?

SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES YESTERDAY. SORRY. WE'RE BACK UP AND RUNNING.

We received this comment:

Anonymous said...
Carlos and Bennett did it again. Instead of firing any of the old guard who mostly have no more passion for the work, make over 100k, and are already financially set for life, they fire the young attorneys making less than 50K who are just out trying to start a career. Those of us with inside contacts know exactly who was fired. And just because they all officially resigned does not mean that they weren't fired. When I was a new attorney, if I was given the option of resigning instead of being immediately terminated, I would have resigned every time. You have a future to think about and no one wants to start out a career getting fired from their first job.


Rumpole would like to know whether any assistant public defenders "resigned" last week. We edited the comment by leaving out a final line, containing an invective that made the observation that a certain substance "stinks" which was not, in fact, any new scientific discovery. Rather it repeated a well known fact.

The Broward Blog reprints this post from Bob Norman's article in the New Times on controversial Broward Circuit Court Judge (and accused "leaving the scene of an accident" driver) Ana Gardiner, who "suddenly" decided that rather than be chief administrative judge in criminal court, a stint as a regular ol' judge in civil court is just what she needed. She was apparently just following Judge Moreno's often quoted observation: "too many chiefs, not enough indians."

The article is HERE

Former Dade ASA Illona Holmes takes over Gardiner's slot.

Remember Rumpole's simple advice for Miami defense attorneys considering taking a case North of the Border: DON'T.
Just follow that simple rule, and your life will be much easier.

42 comments:

Anonymous said...

As Alex Michaels said last night at the Hard Rock:

Deeze PDs were fired? Dis is BULLSHEEEEEEEEET!

Jobs for PDs said...

If it is in fact true that some PDs resigned and are out of work, please contact us at jobsforpds@yahoo.com as we are interviewing this week.

Frankie say said...

The world is my oyster
Ha ha ha ha ha ........

Anonymous said...

I remember as a young ASA standing in court with some Narcotics prosecutors, who had filed a tricky conspiracy case against a high level colombian. They had spent a few minutes wondering who the defendant would hire. Mechanic and Goldstein, or Weiner Robbins Tunkey and Ross were some of the top firms in the 80's. Carlton and Carlton was also a possibility. About a minute to 9 the door swung open and in strod Stuart Mishikn with a glower on his face and twinkle in his eye. He was surrounded by family members and bondsmen and the whole courtroom went nuts. The Defendants in the box were out of control all asking for his card.

"Damn, they got Mishkin" hissed David Troyer. Ten minutes later the defendant was out on bond. Two months and about three depos later, Troyer was down to possession and CTS which Stuart turned down.

It was a quite a scene, and quite a time during the cocaine 80's and in his own way with his own style SRM as they called him was quite a lawyer.

batman said...

The defense bar and most of the Public Defender's Office placed themselves firmly behind Carlos "I am just Bennett in another body" Martinez. What could possibly make you think that he would then turn on those who are most responsible for his being elected without opposition? Did you think much was going to change?

I dispute the idea that there are too many chiefs, because to be a chief you have to commnad the respect of those who follow, to lead and to fight along side others. The chiefs you speak of sit in their offices with their few cases and care little for the every day defender.

Shame on you Bennett and shame on you too Carlos.

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fake judge robin faber said...

I have a TON of community service sitting on my desk. It's time the frivolity of this blog gave way to the very very serious matters I adjudicate every day.

Anonymous said...

Bring back calendar issues or pics of BB.

Anonymous said...

To all the young PD's with no leverage in this great organization - God help us all! What on earth were we thinking the day we opted to do public service? Certainly not about being given the option to resign, but with conditions, or be fired.

Anonymous said...

Alan Greenstein resigned in protest.

Lynne Pochurek resigned in
protest.

Tony Haber , Jelani M, Taryn Smithline and others were told to resign.

Anonymous said...

Rumpole, I think you missed these two:

BAL HARBOUR
Bal Harbour official faces ethics fine

The county's Ethics Commission wants to impose maximum sanctions against a Bal Harbour council member accused of violating financial disclosure laws.

BY RODOLFO R. ROMAN
Special to The Miami Herald

The Miami-Dade Commission on Ethics and Public Trust has rejected a proposed settlement with Bal Harbour council member Joel S. Jacobi, recommending that he face the maximum fine and a letter of reprimand for multiple violations of financial disclosure laws.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami_dade/beaches/story/560269.html

and

Proof of Residency

A robbery and a traffic citation may have exposed a dishonest village councilman

By Angie Hargot

More than a year after the election — after allegations of unethical campaigning, a damaging decision by the county ethics commission, a lawsuit and almost $100,000 in taxpayer money spent to defend city officials — controversy continues about whether Bal Harbour Councilman Joel Jacobi can rightfully sit on the village dais.

http://www.miamisunpost.com/052908balharbour.htm

Anonymous said...

Holmes is actually a pretty good judge--which means that, by Broward standards, she is great. Holmes can be tough, but generally treats all with respect and is fair. In her own unique way, she reminds me some of the now-famous Judge David Young. While I normally hate going to Broward, I enjoy appearing before Judge Holmes.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, but weren't a few asked to resign since the had not tried a single case in over a year? Or that they got caught picking up outside criminal work in other jurisdictions while being pds...

Anonymous said...

Heard Todd Bass got a mistrial on a murder case in Venzer's division. Is it true he failed to turn over Brady material? What happened?

Anonymous said...

Hey Rumpole - what is your opinion of Judge Ilona Holmes? How has she treated you?

Anonymous said...

A great deal is made on this blog about the salaries that are paid to the senior attorneys at the PD's Office, yet how much is a lawyer with almost 30 years of experience supposed to get paid a year? How many murder cases are they supposed to handle to justify said salary? Warren Schwartz gets alot of crap on this blog, yet he's been in division trying cases for years. And as for some of the others with the larger salaries, some people have to be part of the administration in order to keep things running and funded. So if these administrators have also been at the office for 25 years, keeping things running and funded, what are they supposed to be paid? In the world of the private firms, these people are the rainmakers and CFOs, in the public legal arena they are the Chief Assistants and lobbying arms of their respective offices. I too have heard that there have been resignation/firings, but does it occur to anyone that maybe these lawyers were not making the grade? Why is the assumption that those who were asked to leave were stellar lawyers? Maybe they weren't and under different, non-political circumstances, they still would have been asked to leave. Why don't we give Carlos a chance to actually work for more than 2 weeks as the PD elect before the usual PD bashing on this blog continues.

Anonymous said...

Captain why did a certain candidate for Clerk change from Democrat to Independent? Why the switch?

Anonymous said...

I don't know much about the circumstances under which Greenstein and Pochurek resigned, but I do know that the other names on the list were people who had not tried any cases as long as I can remember. Unfortunately, one of the names was a PD who filed a notice of appearance on a private CRIMINAL case while working as a PD. Frankly, the names on this list do not surprise me at all, and likely would not surprise anyone in the office who knows exactly which PD's work and which do not. And yes, while some dead wood has to be trimmed from the so-called senior attorney element, I'll add that anyone who thinks that making $100,000 after working for 20+ years is "good money" is dreaming.

Anonymous said...

but wait I saw Taryn Smithline in the office this morning...when was she supposed to have resigned?

Anonymous said...

People who don't know how to spell the names of the individuals about whom they gossip should not be allowed to post on this blog. There is no Jelani M that works at the PD's office. Tarin, spelled with an I, did not resign, was not fired and is still currently employed. It's a sad state of affairs when the truth can get so twisted like this by people who have no idea what they are talking about. GET LIVES PEOPLE!!!

Anonymous said...

greenstein resigned? as turtle on entourage said "he's got principles". to give up a 120k a year job when you have been there forever pretty amazing.

cant imagine anyone at SAO doing that in protest

Anonymous said...

mechanic? what a joke. He has never tried a jury trial. He was a non-jury pd in front of Judge Baker. I dont think he has set foot in the mjb in decades.

Anonymous said...

In protest of WHAT?!? Who are you people and how can you post these outrageously WRONG comments about things that you obviously have no idea what you are talking about?

Tarin Smithline has tried at least 5 cases that I can count in the last year; which is more than most private attorneys could say for themselves. All of the people named in the annonymous posting from yesterday are hard working lawyers who care deeply about their clients.

Alan Greenstein has dedicated 30 years of his career to this office and did NOT resign in protest of anything.

The article claims to know exactly who was "fired" from the PD office but yet names nobody. Then some annonymous IDIOT posts a comment naming people he or she obviously doesn't know since the names aren't even spelled correctly. These postings are not only erroneous but there offensive.

CHECK YOUR FACTS before you committ libel and harm good lawyer's reputations.

If people want to post their OPINIONS on this stupid blog that's one thing but anonymous poster from 8:09AM today DOES NOT and CANNOT speak for other PDs. Obviously whoever you are you don't know the truth about the people you insult!

GET A CLUE!

Anonymous said...

He didn't protest. he retired to go work with civil atty Ray Taseff.

eye on greenstein said...

AND he is pulling in close to 1M from DROP.

good for him.

Anonymous said...

I am so sick of hearing that people aren't happy at the PD's office. As a former PD who is now out "in the real world", I miss being treated with the fairness, sense of commeraderie, and respect that I had back then.

You all KNEW the salary when you applied for that job. You are NOT entitled to slack off because you don't make a lot of money. If you don't like having to actually WORK and think low pay is an excuse, GO FIND WORK IN THE "REAL WORLD". Then come and talk to me about how bad it was at the PD's. You don't know micro-managing till you've been out here you self-entitled little brats.

Anonymous said...

Jelani Davis was a hardowrking and effective PD as well.

Anonymous said...

Can we change the blog name to "the cat fight between the Miami SAO and PD's office"?

The blog lights up anytime you say BOO about either office. Good thing we know each has internet.

Anonymous said...

Let's bring back the posts about hot ASA's, PD's and clerks.

Anonymous said...

120k is nothing. Raoul Cantero can expect WAY over a million a year. Make partner at a big firm and you're making a million. A respected ASA/PD with 7 years under her belt can expect to triple their salary by leaving.

Sam I Am said...

Franklin Brown, Bus Driver, made $96,192.50 in 2007. That's worth a few hemorrhoids.





http://www.miamifly.net/watchdog/datasleuth/db/employee/?__pos=1280&_lastname=&_firstname=&__search=Search&_dept=067

Anonymous said...

Jelani Davis and Tarin Smythline are both fantastic attorneys, who are anything but lazy!

Both of them work hard for the PD clients. They go to trial, visit their clients in jail, and have great motion practice skills. Most importantly they care about their work and their clients' cases!

People who are posting should check their facts before they make ridiculous sweeping comments!

Anonymous said...

more disturbing is allegations that a DC with held Brady material. If its false, his name should be cleared. If its true, he should be disbarred and go to prison.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have an idea how long it takes clerk of courts (Miami- Dade 11th) to file case so it shows on-line (from the moment he receives filing fee and complaint in th US mail ) ? They claim to have piles of unfiled complaints because broke Floridians are suddenly so busy suing each other. Is that right ? Federal clerks file/ show on-line the same day . This is so weird (a whole week already) !

Anonymous said...

It sometimes takes 10 days before my notice of appearance shows for a criminal case.
No idea how long civil side is taking.

Anonymous said...

I would congratulate Ms. Smithline for writing about herself in superb third person had her name not been misspelled. Perhaps that was to throw us off. Otherwise one of her little friends is feeling particularly loyal to her.

Meanwhile, I'm choking on my afternoon snack over here reading this....

Anonymous said...

Why the extra long delays Rumpole? I have to have some distractions from the day to day bullshit.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the new PDs were fired because they suck? Lynne Pochurek is kickass, not sure why she left though.

Anonymous said...

Rumpole, please remove the 4:41 pm posting. Stupid of me to post that.

Anonymous said...

Lynne Pochurek made the decision to stay home with her boys for a while (she just finished a year of maternity leave). It has nothing to do with what is going on at the office.

Anonymous said...

I worked with Lynne when I was a prosecutor and she was a PD. She's a huge loss for that office. Top notch attorney with great integrity ala the Joe Reyes (RIP), Randy Petre mold.